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NBC Admitted: No ‘Assault Rifle’ Used in Newtown Shooting
Independent Journal Review ^ | 15 January 2013 5:10pm | Kyle Becker

Posted on 01/17/2013 9:57:45 AM PST by MeganC

When the president surrounds himself with children while giving his announcement that reasonable gun control measures are necessary, bear in mind that those ‘assault rifles‘ the government is sure to be going after were not even used in the Newton, Connecticut elementary shooting. As NBC admits in the video above, four handguns were used to carry out that despicable atrocity. This directly contradicts other reports.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; guncontrol; nbcnews; sandyhook; sandyhookshooting; sandyhookweapon; secondamendment
No 'assault weapon' was used at Newtown. NBC says so and they said they confirmed it. Now let's see how long it takes the MSM to change their collective narrative to fit the facts...or will they keep insisting that we need to ban 'assault weapons'?
1 posted on 01/17/2013 9:57:47 AM PST by MeganC
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To: MeganC

Moderators: I searched for this on FR prior to posting it. That said, feel free to remove if it was posted under a different title.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 9:59:08 AM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: MeganC

This has been the most confusing fact to establish. Did he, or did he not use a Bushmaster AR? If not, as purported by NBC here, then the MSM has deliberately suppressed this information for political purposes.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 10:04:07 AM PST by Obadiah (Of course Obama wants to protect our children. After all, who else is going to pay off his debt?)
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To: MeganC

The video is from Dec 15 and was based upon rumor and gossip, not verified info.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 10:05:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MeganC

Familiar pattern... the media did their job perpetuating the charade until Obama rolled out his ‘emergency’ legislation. Now they are free to try to salvage their own credibility.


5 posted on 01/17/2013 10:07:03 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MeganC
The video at the link is from the day after the shootings, before the coroner's report.

"A large quantity of unused ammunition was recovered at the school, along with three semi-automatic firearms found with Lanza: a .223-caliber Bushmaster XM-15 rifle, a 10mm Glock 20 SF handgun and a 9mm SIG Sauer handgun."

6 posted on 01/17/2013 10:08:03 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Obadiah

The media claimed a Bushmaster AR was found in a car in the parking lot but if you watch the video, it appears to actually be a shotgun.

Part of the confusion (besides the media rushing to be first with the story and not fact checking) is when the corner said something along the lines of they were shot with the ‘big gun’ people assumed she meant rifles. However, anyone here knows that the diameter of a .223 round is actually quite small and if he had a .45 pistol, that could have easily been considered the ‘big one’.


7 posted on 01/17/2013 10:08:03 AM PST by mnehring
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To: MeganC

The long arm in the trunk wasn’t an AR-15 because the deputy is racking the bolt from the side. You cycle the bolt on a AR by pulling the charging handle from the rear.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 10:09:11 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: MeganC

What you see in the video is a shotgun. The officer ejects a shotgun round from the gun.


9 posted on 01/17/2013 10:09:11 AM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: thackney

So do we need a 9/11 type commission to sort it all out? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? How about some facts?


10 posted on 01/17/2013 10:09:25 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: MeganC

What did 0bama know and when did he know it?


11 posted on 01/17/2013 10:10:16 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: MeganC

Does anyone believe NBC’s “admission” will have any effect on the Regime’s narrative?


12 posted on 01/17/2013 10:11:37 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: MeganC

Questions:

How did the medical examiner make a determination so fast and why was he casually announcing it to the media?

The video of the “long gun” is about 1:22 and shows a semi-auto shotgun. However, that video starts with the trunk already open and the LEO with his hands over or in the interior of the trunk. Where is the video that starts before the trunk was opened?

Why is the LEO handling the “long gun” with his bare hands? Isn’t that destroying potential fingerprint evidence?

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13 posted on 01/17/2013 10:13:37 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: MeganC
Listen here, Freeper: The facts don't matter; this is for the children.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 10:14:51 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: TLI
How did the medical examiner make a determination so fast and why was he casually announcing it to the media?

Good chance he was throwing up BS or talking out his rear.

Still waiting for a comprensive police report to be made public. You might see one in 2014.

15 posted on 01/17/2013 10:19:34 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: MeganC

I guess this means we can expect obama to recend his E.O.

I know, fat chance. And I used a small “O” on purpose.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 10:20:23 AM PST by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: Red Steel

comprensive = comprehensive


17 posted on 01/17/2013 10:21:19 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: MeganC
Holeecrap!

The mainstream media are barely even disguising the fact that they are nothing more then government propagandists anymore.

Are they so saturated with socialists and ‘fellow travelers’ that no one in their ranks will object to this? What is in the curriculum they teach in ‘journalism’ school these days?

18 posted on 01/17/2013 10:21:39 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I will trust a completed coroner’s report over a reporter who cannot recognize the difference between a shotgun and a AR-15.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 10:22:01 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MeganC

I think this should put an end to YOUR speculation. At about the 50 second mark he (CT STATE POLICE PAUL VANCE) discusses the weapons USED as well as what was found in the TRUNK OF THE CAR

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvzvkl_police-conn-shooter-had-hundreds-of-bullets_news#.UPQjbKyDmSo


20 posted on 01/17/2013 10:31:57 AM PST by coldfury42
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To: MeganC

21 posted on 01/17/2013 10:33:54 AM PST by TSgt (Infringe upon my 2nd Amendment rights and learn how to speed read at 3000 feet per second...)
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To: TLI

Why is the LEO handling the “long gun” with his bare hands?


My guess: It’s his gun.


22 posted on 01/17/2013 10:35:05 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

most of the time that’s true.

with all the variants out there,I’ve seen side chargers,too.

Not that it matters. All guns are evil, those are just more evil this month.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 10:36:38 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: MeganC
killTV-1
24 posted on 01/17/2013 10:41:33 AM PST by timestax (AMERICAN MEDIA= DOMESTIC ENEMY)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Nice juxtaposition.


25 posted on 01/17/2013 10:41:33 AM PST by pa_dweller (Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves:... Isa 1:23)
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To: MeganC

Sucks to live in NY now ...


26 posted on 01/17/2013 10:44:32 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Post #8

You are exactly right ,,, ARs do not have a side action bolt . Any assault rifle with a pistol grip to the Mean Streak Media is an AR-15 in their book .


27 posted on 01/17/2013 10:48:04 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: MeganC
"facts"

Facts???!!! Since when has Big Media or Dem pols i.e demagogues ever let facts get in the way of a good story?

28 posted on 01/17/2013 10:53:59 AM PST by driftless2
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To: coldfury42

I’d rather not watch a video, I rarely do, what did it say?


29 posted on 01/17/2013 11:04:58 AM PST by veracious
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To: veracious

Its Paul Vance (CT State Police) describing the weapons used (AR-15) and that the gun in the trunk of the car was a SHOTGUN.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 11:09:23 AM PST by coldfury42
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To: MeganC

This should take long to verify. The police report is in the public domain. A FOIA request may be necessary to get it, but the police can’t keep it secret.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 11:11:42 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: MeganC

4 handguns and probably none of themhad 30 round assault magazines. When we still thought he used a Bushmaster as initially reported and as maintained for a while, we all pointed out that it were just as likely he would use a couple of pistols to do the same thing. Well...


32 posted on 01/17/2013 11:15:31 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: MeganC

Related...

http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2013/01/assualt-weapons-were-not-involved-in.html


33 posted on 01/17/2013 11:27:29 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: MeganC
MSM will never let the facts distract from their adjenda.
34 posted on 01/17/2013 11:33:37 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: MeganC; Admin Moderator

Someone posted a similar thread just this morning:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2979041/posts?q=1&;page=182#182

Seeing as the information in both reports is old and inaccurate, I don’t see why we need two threads a day on it.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 11:54:15 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: mnehring

He actually said “long gun”, not “big gun”, so he was using an accurate technical term, but one that includes both rifles and shotguns, so it invites confusion. He later clarified that by saying specifically the wounds were caused by the rifle.

They did ask whether the rifle was found in the trunk at the same press conference, and it was stated that was not accurate.


36 posted on 01/17/2013 12:03:45 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: TLI

“How did the medical examiner make a determination so fast and why was he casually announcing it to the media?”

He performed seven autopsies himself, and supervised the rest, is how he made his determinations, and he was announcing it at a formal press conference with law enforcement present, not casually.


37 posted on 01/17/2013 12:05:46 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Great line-up of the photos. Too bad the center one should never have happened. Obammy should never have happened.

FMCDH(BITS)

38 posted on 01/17/2013 12:15:01 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: arthurus

You’ve got it backwards, this is a report from the day after the shooting, misleadingly posted as if it is breaking news. All the major media outlets have long since reported the correct information, but the conspiracy theorists don’t want you to listen to that, they would rather replay one old, inaccurate report.


39 posted on 01/17/2013 12:17:43 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: MeganC
NBC says so and they said they confirmed it.

So NBC is your source of truth???

40 posted on 01/17/2013 12:34:15 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MeganC
The correspondent makes it clear over and over again that he confirmed this information with federal and state officials.

That's not true. His source was federal officials not state.

Lt Vance speaking for the state at the ME press conference set the record straight -- the 26 were all killed with the long weapon -- the rifle.

41 posted on 01/17/2013 12:39:54 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Obadiah
the MSM has deliberately suppressed this information for political purposes.


You just described their standard M O, they don't do anything else.
42 posted on 01/17/2013 1:39:50 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: MeganC

It’s Agenda Uber Alles all over again.. how long before the sheople finally wake up to the wolves in the herd.


43 posted on 01/17/2013 2:53:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Boogieman
The people on MSM, including Sean Hannity, are still attacking or defending Bushmasters because of the one used to kill all those kids. But then Hannity is pretty dense. He defends the 2amd by pointing out all the sensible proper restrictions are already on it. Well the restricters are just looking for a little teensy weensy bit more of same now and a tiny tad more tomorrow. Actually the 2nd admits of NO restrictions. It says nothing about convicted felons or bi-polars. It says ".. shall not be infringed." As soon as you say, well, some (restrictions) infringement are necessary, well, you negate the amendment. That is how important the Founders thought RKBA was. It permits NO restrictions at all. It doesn't say "Congress shall make no law..." like the 1
44 posted on 01/17/2013 5:51:49 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Boogieman

How many pieces of 5.56 NATO/223Win brass were recovered from the crime scene?


45 posted on 01/18/2013 1:33:04 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

They haven’t released the report yet, so I don’t have an exact number, but the police have said that he fired “hundreds” of rounds.


46 posted on 01/18/2013 6:28:51 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: coldfury42; ILS21R
Its Paul Vance (CT State Police) describing the weapons used (AR-15) and that the gun in the trunk of the car was a SHOTGUN.

Just an observation, but the video link you provided appears to have been during the day time, yet the recovery video of the shot gun was done at night time.

How can the shot gun been recovered in the dark when Vance just said the gun had already been recovered?

47 posted on 01/18/2013 7:45:43 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Bushmaster makes different configurations of rifles the ACR and a carbon 15 model are two of the side charging handle types of bushmaster firearms.


48 posted on 01/19/2013 8:39:47 AM PST by Soldier of the 2nd
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To: Soldier of the 2nd

Thanks for the info but I think you meant that for another poster, not me.

Welcome to FR.


49 posted on 01/19/2013 8:44:56 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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