Anti-Depressants linked to mass murders

Liberty & Such ^ | January 10, 2013 | brandon

[yoe]

[snip] (Standard Gravure shooting) First known shooting with ties to Prozac. Joseph Wesbecker kills 12, injures 9.

Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I am going to venture to say that part of the problem is that people who don't need anti-depressants are taking them.

Some because that is what their doctor prescribed and others for "fun".

Mine just return my setting to "normal". I don't get a "high" off them and I don't get numb. I am just me again.

If you are not responding to a medicine or you are having weird side effects then for the love of mike quit taking it.

If your doctor disagrees, get another doctor. Get two or three of them if you must. Being human they view every thing through a prism of their own bises which can sometimes make them see problems that aren't there while overlooking the ones that are.

I would not be in the spot I am if fifteen years ago when my then doctor told me, "that's normal, just live with it" I had found another doctor who know what he was doing.

[Windflier]

Can you list all the kids who took antidepressants and didn’t commit crimes?

No, but that's a bit of a straw man argument you're attempting there.

I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm merely providing solid data that backs up the assertion that there's a causal link between these powerful, mind altering drugs, and some of these 'inexplicable' homicides.

[Salamander]

Are you aware that they now routinely prescribe antidepressants for pets?

Does your dog have “separation anxiety”?

Don’t bother with all the tedious training and conditioning to cure your dog...drug it up!

[the deal with the puppies makes me sick]

Our little almost-4-months Halla is a whirlwind with needle teeth, inflicting disaster, mayhem, chaos and destruction wherever she races like a maniac.

God bless her, I wouldn’t have her any other way.

After extensive medical care and much worry that she would die, she’s turned out to be a normal, happy puppy!

I knew a guy whose son was on Ritalin.

When I asked why, his teachers had decreed him ‘abnormal’ because he fidgeted instead of studying, teased the little girls and always wanted to run and play outside in the sunshine.

Oh, the horror of a healthy 7 year old boy.

They should’ve just shot him like a mad dog in the street.

/s

[Windflier]

And what would this thread be without an appearance of the ubiquitous straw man?

Heh....great minds really do think alike! I was just saying that.

[Salamander]

“I am going to venture to say that part of the problem is that people who don’t need anti-depressants are taking them.”

We have a winner.

They’re being prescribed to women going through menopause.

Menopause is a normal, natural thing..not a “mental illness”.

It became ‘hip’ to take Prozac in the 90’s because it causes ‘weight loss’ in many people.

Hollyweirdos took it just for that.

They’re [over]prescribed for things that are actually just normal life events, such as a loss of a loved one, a job, your hair, whatever.

*Everything* is “depression”, now.

The true, _clinically depressed_ [idiopathic depression arising from no identifiable emotional upheaval or physical cause] are fairly rare.

But, the pills are very profitable and the masses very gullible.

So, here we are, a Prozac nation.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

The drugs are garbage. And it’s not just the antidepressants. ALL of the FDA approved mind and mood altering drugs garbage, and Everyone in the industry knows it, and lies about it or issues a “No Comment”.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/medicatedchild/

http://alert.psychiatricnews.org/2012/06/military-suicides-continue-troubling.html

http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/newsarticle.aspx?articleid=1096602

http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/newsarticle.aspx?articleid=108552

http://www.opednews.com/articles/5/genera_evelyn_p_080122_jury_trials_in_2008_.htm 70% driving impaired

http://www.ssristories.com/show.php?item=3991
suicide, mania

http://alert.psychiatricnews.org/2012/05/facebook-joins-fight-against-military.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-bobrow/military-suicides-stigma-_b_1677798.html

http://battleland.blogs.time.com/2012/06/08/lagging-indicator/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaWrf8OISlg
John Breeding on youtube

http://psychrights.org/states/Texas/100209JBreedingLtr2TxLegislature.pdf
Breeding Letter

http://themilitarysuicidereport.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/militarys-rising-psychiatric-drug-prescriptions-may-be-linked-to-suicides-homicides/

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2012-06-07/military-troops-suicide/55453990/1
w/video

http://www.frontiersin.org/Evolutionary_Psychology/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00117/full
Antidepressants do more harm than good

http://www.psychologytoday.com/print/68229
tardive dysphoria/chronic ssri use

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebound_effect
rebound effect

http://truthman30.wordpress.com/
check his blogroll

http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage
Brain Damage neuroleptics

http://breggin.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=53&dir=DESC&order=date&Itemid=37&limit=10&limitstart=40
Peter Breggin

Brain damage, dementia and persistent cognitive dysfunction associated with neuroleptics (1990)
01/01/1990
“Brain damage, dementia and persistent cognitive dysfunction associated with neuroleptics: Evidence, Etiology, Implications.”

[Salamander]

The voices in your head told the voices in my head to type that.

[they’ve got a real party line going on up there]

;D

[LibertarianLiz]

Then again, who the heck knows what “depression” is, anyway, or if it even exists?

As someone who suffered from depression for decades, I can attest to it's existence. I wasn't a little blue, I did have suicidal thoughts.

I tried Zoloft, and I got worse. I actually had some auditory stuff happen to me (like someone screaming in the back of my head). That scared the hell out of me, and I refused to take it anymore. Drs. want to give it to you, but, I couldn't risk that happening again. It had never happened to me before, or after I stopped taking that drug.

Funny thing, when I went thru menopause, my depressions got a lot less frequent and I wasn't constantly down anymore. When I had a hysterictomy (cancer), and all the lady parts left, so did my depression.

I am old enough to remember the first feminists shouting about the "mysoginistic" doctors ripping women's uteruses out just because they hated women and were doing it for "hysteria". Well, I now wonder if they just had enough experience of seeing women improve from their troubles with depression, that they would do this surgery for that reason.

Anyway, my life dramatically improved after my surgery, and I know that my problem was actually hormones, and these drugs can make a problem worse.

[Windflier]

Well, my voices are telling me that I need to get my hiney out of here and get to work.

I’ll be at the top of a ladder for the rest of the day doing mindless rain gutter cleaning therapy. It’s either that, or Prozac. I think I’ll sweat the ladder :-)

[shibumi]

Just please! Whatever you do, don’t take the Prozac and *then* try to climb the ladder.

(I hear tell the voices are positively shrill when they get way up high.)

[shibumi]

Here I’ve been posting on this thread and now Facebook is asking me “How are you feeling?”

Coincidence?

(I think not!)

[muawiyah]

Same day hearing ~ how about that. Shrink judges on call 24/7

[muawiyah]

at the sme time schizophrenia goes unreported simply because it is a life sentence. I'm sure that weighs on their minds, but doctors have to learn that it's actual schizophrenia that's the problem, not that of being labeled as someone with schizophrenia.

We will probably have a test for the presence of the genes that underlie the condition soon. That test should be mandatory, particularly for anyone running for political office.

[muawiyah]

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/versed-side-effects.html ~ this is about the side effects of Versed ~ more or less ~ which is a sedative used for minor surgery. Minor surgery would include just about anything to do with the eye, the lower GI, tooth extracts, etc. You really need to read it because you have just reported several of those side effects.

[muawiyah]

When you reach 60 years of age the required dose is 1/4 the regular dose. That’s when the rare side effect of forgetting periods of time sets in ~ I forgot the entire month of February 2006 after taking Versed. Found out through a friend that the manufacturer was aware that those over 60, or those who are overweight tended to stash it in their body fat and it would keep leaking out doing what it does. They finally made a notice of the problem as Baby Boomers started showing up with the forgetfulness problem. Otherwise it’s about the safest sedative on the market.

[Salamander]

Be careful.

I gotta go on an Angel Of Mercy run for hubby.

He’s got chest congestion and needs hot tea, lemon and honey.
[three things he never consumes so we have none in stock]

It’s cold out but sunny so I’m gonna go glory in that and dream of hot days and Harleys.

:)

[Salamander]

Who could blame them?

If *you* fall, *they* fall, too.

LOL

[Salamander]

Hormone Hell is -very- real.

[as those who have ‘crossed me’ me here can attest..I can go from Salamander to Harpy in 1.6 seconds]

;D

[Salamander]

It’s asking me “What’s happening?”

Well, I am, that’s what.

[FUFB]

[Salamander]

“That test should be mandatory, particularly for anyone running for political office. “

Yay!

No more politicians!