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Shootings Prompt New Gun Bill: A new bill would restrict ammunition sales in California
KNTV-TV ^ | January 8, 2013 | Marianne Favro

Posted on 01/08/2013 11:50:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The massacre in Newton, Conn., and other mass shootings have prompted for a call to curb gun violence.

California assembly member Nancy Skinner answered that call with a proposal to restrict ammunition sales in the state.

“2,800 people in California were killed last year by gunfire," Skinner said. "It is easier to buy bullets than cough medicine or alcohol. It should not be that easy. We need to have much more scrutiny when it comes to the purchase of guns."

Monday she unveiled Assembly Bill 48. It would require bullet buyers to show identification. It would also require ammunition dealers to be licensed and report all sales to the department of justice.

Emmeryville police chief Ken James supports the tighter restrictions.

”Right now you can buy bullets in any store and the sale is not recorded”, James said. "Gun violence will continue unless we control the sale of bullets."

Oakland mayor Jean Quan also said she supports the bill and that Oakland has seen too much gun violence and the changes may help...

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcbayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; california; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; secondamendment; tyranny
Who saw this coming?
1 posted on 01/08/2013 11:50:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet the gun stores right across the California border would love this....


2 posted on 01/08/2013 11:59:06 AM PST by apillar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is no amendment to the Constitution that says, "The right to buy and carry cough medicine shall not be infringed."

But the 2nd Amendment says the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

3 posted on 01/08/2013 12:00:29 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not that facts enter into the gun control debate now that the Left-wing extremists see an opportunity to end America as we knew it, but here are two journal articles that illustrate the unintended consequences of gun control, namely increased murder and suicide rates, and mass-murder by government of its own citizens.

WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE?, Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Volume 30, Number 2, Spring 2007 (pp. 649-694)

OF HOLOCAUSTS AND GUN CONTROL, Washington University Law Quarterly, Volume 75, Number 3, Fall 1997 (pp. 1237-1275)

4 posted on 01/08/2013 12:01:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m beyond giving a damn about all the ways that California screws itself.

SnakeDoc


5 posted on 01/08/2013 12:06:18 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Come and take it.)
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To: apillar
I bet the gun stores right across the California border would love this....

As a state they'll have trouble going after on-line sales... the next logical step... but that won't keep them from posturing and trying.

6 posted on 01/08/2013 12:07:54 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

If you have not moved out of California by now, you deserve whatever happens to you.

You saw this coming, yet chose to stay.


7 posted on 01/08/2013 12:10:14 PM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is easier to buy bullets than cough medicine or alcohol

Jeezz... what do you have to do to buy cough medicine and booze in CA?

8 posted on 01/08/2013 12:11:01 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m in Reno or K Falls every couple of months so this is no problem for me. I will have to bring in more powder primers and bullets for my reloading room.
I’m wondering how many of these homicides were not murder.
9 posted on 01/08/2013 12:12:40 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: backwoods-engineer

You’re right. However, making it difficult for law abiding people to buy cough syrup or allergy med hasn’t helped cut down on illegal drug labs either.


10 posted on 01/08/2013 12:16:07 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: backwoods-engineer
But the 2nd Amendment says the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

The argument these brainstems are making is the 2nd Amendment doesn't say "the right to keep and bear arms and bullets shall not be infringed".

Brilliant, right?

11 posted on 01/08/2013 12:21:15 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Black market opportunities. The Mexican cartels already have distribution routes and distributors in place.


12 posted on 01/08/2013 12:27:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: RepRivFarm

Just give up and run away huh? That worked real well in academia the media and Hollywood.


13 posted on 01/08/2013 12:29:27 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: grobdriver

I have to show picture ID to buy cough medicine here in Md.

I am a little long in the tooth for being carded , but ID is required to buy alcohol here, though most do not ask for it. So far I can buy shotgun shells without showing ID.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 12:32:56 PM PST by Venturer
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To: RepRivFarm

California needs an involuntary bankruptcy.

Perhaps even an entire reboot.


15 posted on 01/08/2013 12:36:53 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RepRivFarm

It’s easy to cut and run. As a native Californian, I choose to stay and do what little I can to stop the slide. God has not given me permission to leave. There must be a good reason for that. It does get discouraging at times.


16 posted on 01/08/2013 12:41:02 PM PST by bubbacluck
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

California has been trying to find a way around the voter’s rejection of a handgun ban since the failure or Proposition 15 back in 1982.


17 posted on 01/08/2013 1:06:27 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
James said. "Gun violence will continue unless we control the sale of bullets."

Dumbass, you cannot control the sale of bullets any more than you can control the sale of cocaine. You can only control the sale of "legal" bullets.

18 posted on 01/08/2013 1:08:02 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

California Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner

19 posted on 01/08/2013 1:08:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Greentard. Global Warmer Phobe. Berkeley Commie. Husband and daughter work in paid-for-life City of Berkeley jobs. Union toady. Another moronic Libtard who should be tending her plants and eating tofu listening to 60’s folk music and lighting incense vs. making laws. Libtard incarnate.

From her webpage:

In November 2008, Nancy Skinner (D-Berkeley) was elected to represent the Bay Area’s 14th Assembly District. The district includes Albany, Berkeley, El Cerrito, Emeryville, Kensington, Lafayette, Moraga, Orinda, Pleasant Hill, Richmond, San Pablo and parts of Oakland and El Sobrante.

As a freshman legislator, Assemblymember Skinner was named Chair of the Natural Resources Committee. The Committee’s jurisdiction includes water and air quality, recycling, waste management, energy issues including efficiency, power plant siting, and energy development, oil spills, wild and scenic rivers, forestry, open space conservation and, oversight of California’s global warming solutions act.

Assemblymember Skinner brings to the Assembly experience as a small business owner. Early in her career, she served on the Berkeley City Council and was responsible for many of Berkeley’s groundbreaking environmental policies, including initiating economic development strategy and waterfront protection policies. Her introduction of Berkeley’s 1988 ban on Styrofoam was the first in the nation.

A nationally renowned leader in the fight against global warming, she founded ICLEI-Local Governments for Sustainability, an organization dedicated to helping local governments around the world become environmental leaders. As Executive Director of ICLEI’s U.S. office, she launched the Cities for Climate Protection Program, the national movement of Mayors and cities working to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that now involves over 500 cities and counties.

As the U.S. Director of The Climate Group, Assemblymember Skinner worked with Fortune 500 companies, clean tech industries and state and national leaders to pass groundbreaking legislation such as California’s global warming bill, AB 32. With a team of writers at Earthworks Press, she also wrote and published the best selling book series 50 Simple Things You Can Do To Save the Earth.

Prior to being elected to the State Assembly, Assemblymember Skinner served on the Board of the East Bay Regional Parks District. With 100,000 acres of parklands and open space, the District is the largest urban park system in the United States. There, she worked to protect open space, add acres of additional parks, and expand recreational opportunities for youth and schools.

Assemblymember Skinner is also a Member of the Utilities and Commerce, Local Government, and Appropriations Committees.

Assemblymember Skinner received both her Bachelor of Science degree in Natural Resources and her Masters in Education from University of California, Berkeley. Her husband, Lance Brady, is retired from the Information Technology Office at the City of Berkeley and her daughter Sirona is a chef in Oakland.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 1:23:29 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many were killed by DUI’s, drug overdoses, etc. in Kaliforniastan last year? Probably many more than gun crimes. How many killed in just regular car crashes not involving DUI, and teen drivers? How many did they kill?


21 posted on 01/08/2013 1:26:05 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: RetiredArmy

How many were illegal aliens who should have never been here in the first place?


22 posted on 01/08/2013 1:30:54 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gun violence will continue unless we control the sale of bullets

Drunk driving will continue unless we control the sale of cars.

23 posted on 01/08/2013 1:39:26 PM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

24 posted on 01/08/2013 1:53:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Looks like a real hippie retread.


25 posted on 01/08/2013 2:20:21 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great, just what I need, more Californians in front of me in the ammo line at the next gun show! In Tucson last weekend of 42 cars I walked past and noticed the license plates on, 30 were from AZ, 8 were from CA and 4 were snow birds - 2 x SD, 1 x MN and 1 x IL - and they weren’t in the exhibitor’s lot. Something tells me a lot of ammo and 30 round mags made their way up I10 and I8 that night.


26 posted on 01/08/2013 2:24:17 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Venturer
Amazing.
None of that silliness here in Tejas.
27 posted on 01/08/2013 2:30:35 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: SnakeDoctor
I’m beyond giving a damn about all the ways that California screws itself.

Except when Kalifornia screws itself, the Kalifornicators want to move to your state and have you recognize it as marriage.

Or force ammunition makers to run production lines that have microstamping etc in order to sell it within the state.....to the little people of course.

It seems like whatever Kalifornia does, the rest of the libs try to spread it like small pox through an Indian.

28 posted on 01/08/2013 3:17:15 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"'2,800 people in California were killed last year by gunfire,' Skinner said."

Wow. The problem is obviously the State and its ideology from New York, and shortly before that, from overseas--not firearms. Try a war on drugs to solve the problem--a real war, not a metaphorical one. As for a new law, consider it to be a war for our country's defense against a foreign enemy attack. Open recruiting offices. Build up our military forces.


29 posted on 01/08/2013 4:03:49 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: wac3rd
With a team of writers at Earthworks Press, she also wrote and published the best selling book series 50 Simple Things You Can Do To Save the Earth.

In your case, Nancy, #1 would be Stop Exhaling.

30 posted on 01/08/2013 4:07:38 PM PST by Argus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t swallow this one, Americans!

“Gee, how MUCH ammo is enough?”
“Gee, which KIND of ammo is ‘just right’?”
“Gee, which CALIBER of ammo is ‘just right’?”

When you have cluster(b)uck politicians and bean counter bureaucrats decide what is ‘right for you’, do the opposite!


31 posted on 01/09/2013 6:01:19 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: liege

My wife and I really would like to move to California next year after I retire. Her sister lives near Sacramento and we found a small community up in the foothills that we really like. I am quite concerned about all the crazy leftist politics and the state’s financial future. Also we would have to get rid of most of our guns, magazines, ammo, reloading equipment and supplies before moving.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 10:03:22 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15
There are still some pockets of resistance in the Golden State. The foothills out of Sack-of-Tomatoes are one good example. The political reality is quite overwhelming for conservatives; we bend but do not break.

There is a process to bring in guns and stuff. That information would be on the California Attorney Generals website. I think it's $19 per handgun, nothing over 10 rounds. Long guns are okay, no fees. You couldn't bring your machine guns into the state.

33 posted on 01/17/2013 8:34:17 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: liege

I wonder if there is a division movement IN california?

a break away/seccession for the state movemement.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 8:40:21 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you have ever been convicted OR CHARGED with a DUI, public intoxication, or have driving restrictions THEN you may not own or buy or possess an automobile.

it is for the children.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 8:42:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fireman15
My wife and I really would like to move to California next year after I retire.

I know how you feel. I, myself, am planning to move to Cuba after I retire.

That, or North Korea.

36 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:43 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

The rural hills of Northern California actually have a higher proportion of conservatives than Western Washington where we both have always lived. We are already used to being surrounded by liberals; so it would not be a huge shock to us. Almost none of our firearms are legal down there however.


37 posted on 01/17/2013 5:48:03 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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