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Should you leave the USA before the collapse? Words of wisdom from someone who tried
Poor Richards Blog Spot ^ | 12/14/12 | Mike Adams

Posted on 01/04/2013 8:33:51 PM PST by Kartographer

Realization #1 - Corruption is far worse outside the USA

Realization #2 - Many cultures do not practice long-term preparedness thinking

Realization #3 - Don't be the foreigner

Realization #4 - You cannot escape the global police state

Realization #5 - You are far safer to hunker down than try to go mobile

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: 666; expats; retirement
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To: ferrethouse

Well, I’ve got the longboat, but I need a fjord. I’ve sometimes thought of finding a lonely wilderness place on the coast in Northern Canada for the summers and sail south to pillage during the winter ;^)


21 posted on 01/04/2013 9:14:18 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: redgolum

Good questions...

1. Yes
2. No
3. Not at this time

I can’t think of a single place in this world I would want to live other than right here. I hope I never have to pick up and leave.


22 posted on 01/04/2013 9:18:43 PM PST by berdie
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To: Salamander
hillbillies generally have to be dragged screaming off the mountain of their birth

Sounds like you already have a good spot .

23 posted on 01/04/2013 9:19:44 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Kartographer

America’s history began with Central Asians and Europeans who walked away from Central Asia and Europe.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 9:23:06 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: Kartographer

I say we make the traitors leave...like we did after the Revolutionary war. Sent the Torries and red coats packing. Kicked them clean out. Worked then—will work now.


25 posted on 01/04/2013 9:26:55 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Kartographer

Texas is starting to look like a nice place to move to. Hope they don’t put up roadblocks to stop those in California fom leaving-reverse of dust bowl days.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 9:37:51 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: cherry
you deny yourself over the years to save, and will be ever be able to take it out,

California is considering an exit tax for people who move out of the state

The thinking is that these people authorised the state to take on expenses (schools, roads, social structures) and now are not staying there to pay for them.

27 posted on 01/04/2013 9:39:47 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire.)
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To: rolling_stone
Texas is starting to look like a nice place to move to

Texas is forecasted to swing liberal by 2016. All the Mexicans and all the people fleeing states like California.

28 posted on 01/04/2013 9:42:57 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire.)
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To: Kartographer
Realization No. 6 -
Physical revolution.
I fear it is coming.
29 posted on 01/04/2013 9:44:29 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire.)
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To: steve86

and we can’t wait for him to leave. Sounds like a consensus. GTFO Doc.


30 posted on 01/04/2013 9:45:09 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Kartographer

If it gets too bad, Texas will secede. Go to Texas.


31 posted on 01/04/2013 9:47:16 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Kartographer

I started international travel in 1999, and by 2002, I was living half of my time in central Europe. I left the USSA for good in Jan. 05, back to Slovakia, where I had a great life.
In Jan 2009, I moved to the Philippines, where I have a happy life on a beach, with my new family, and for less then $1000 per month.
There is no way that I would consider going back to the USSA, much less take my family there.
With over 50 percent of Americans choosing a Marxist/Leninist POTUS, the media and educational systems in a full out assault on traditional American values, it tells me that the country that I loved is finished.
The fact that he got re-elected says it all.
Life there will get much worse, before or if it gets better.

By the way, central and south America are booming with new Americans fleeing the Obamination.
Check out InternationalLiving.com


32 posted on 01/04/2013 9:48:37 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Kartographer
Realization #1 - Corruption is far worse outside the USA

Along with the British Empire (or what little is left of it!) and most of Europe.

Sad.

33 posted on 01/04/2013 9:55:06 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: oldbrowser
Australia, New Zealand ?

NOT Australia. Minimum wage is $20. They outlawed many guns in the 90s. Socialist state. Everything thing is REAL expensive. Much worse than the US. Not sure about NZ

34 posted on 01/04/2013 10:00:07 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Kartographer

I don’t know any other way to express this but I will try.

This is my country.

I was born and raised here.

Ancestors of mine fought in the Revolutionary War to ensure the liberties we all enjoy today.

Later, other ancestors of mine fought on both sides of the Civil War and the Union was preserved as a result.

My grandfather fought in WWII and his son fought in Vietnam to stop facism and communism.

I owe my freedom to God and to those generations before me who fought, bled and died to preserve it for me.

Therefore I cannot and will not with a clear conscience simply leave my child to suffer a bleak socialistic future when I have now at this time and place, the opportunity and means to prevent it.

I will not leave.

I will do what I must do in order to preserve the Republic that generations of our forefathers fought, bled and died for over the past 200+ years.

If that makes me a criminal in the eyes of the government, so be it.

I will fight if necessary.

Unlawful force used against me and mine will be met with deadly force.

If someone dies as a result of my use of necessary deadly force, it will be justified and my conscience will be clear.

I’ve lived a good life and have no complaints.

If I die preserving freedom and liberty in this country, then that is God’s will and I accept it.

I’d rather be remembered by my future grandchildren as a patriot who fought and died to preserve our country and its freedoms for us all, than have to explain to them why I failed to take any action at all.

I don’t know any other way to express this.


35 posted on 01/04/2013 10:01:07 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (“If this be treason, make the most of it.” – Patrick Henry, 30 May 1765)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

New tagline.


36 posted on 01/04/2013 10:04:15 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot ("If this be treason, make the most of it. " - Patrick Henry, 30 May 1765)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

New tagline.


37 posted on 01/04/2013 10:04:38 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot ("If this be treason, make the most of it." - Patrick Henry, 30 May 1765)
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To: Kartographer

I’m thankful that our forefathers got out of Europe because it was a lost cause. Of course this isn’t 200 years ago.


38 posted on 01/04/2013 10:05:48 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Kartographer
Learning what you need, getting it or learning how to create it and then learning how to use it is the best advice. Then comes being able and willing to defend what you have. Most places in rural America are preferable to urban areas anywhere.

If a real SHTF scenario happens, that money in your mattress won't help much ...in the bank even less.

39 posted on 01/04/2013 10:08:20 PM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: plain talk

Yes, Australia. The standard of education is much higher in Australia than in the US. Sydney, 7 mil + people is one of the most ethically diverse places on the planet has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.


40 posted on 01/04/2013 10:10:22 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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