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Psychiatrists Becoming Doctor Joke
Accuracy in Academia ^ | November 14, 2012 | Malcolm A. Kline

Posted on 11/15/2012 11:59:32 AM PST by Academiadotorg

There may actually be some good news coming out of academia. “This really is a profession that has run amok,” Robert Whitaker, author of Anatomy of an Epidemic said of psychiatrists in a recent interview with Celeste McGovern which appeared in Citizen magazine. “People are beginning to question its legitimacy and they are beginning to mistrust its values, its diagnoses and its treatments.”

McGovern writes that, “Even medical students are avoiding it, he adds, as the average age of psychiatrists is now 57.” Citizen is published by Focus on the Family. McGovern is based in the United Kingdom.

“Every day in the United States, 850 adults and 250 children are added to the federal government’s disability benefit rolls because of mental illness,” McGovern reports. “That means about 400,000 people are incapacitated each year, to say nothing of hundreds of thousands more diagnosed with less-crippling psychiatric illnesses.”

“The alarming growth rate of this phenomenon is reflected in American spending on psychiatric drugs: Between 1985 and 2007, spending on antidepressants and anti-psychotics alone multiplied nearly 50 times, from $503 million to more than $24 billion annually.”

Part of this trend is catalogued in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental illness 5, compiled by the American Psychiatric Association. “Its current version, the DSM-IV, last updated in 1994, defines 297 disorders based on diagnostic checklists of symptoms,” McGovern relates. “A diagnosis of Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), for example, is given if clinicians can tick off six of a list of symptoms, including ‘not listening,’ ‘fidgeting’ and ‘losing things.’”

“Today, at least 3 million American children are taking amphetamine drugs like Ritalin as a result of ADHD diagnoses.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: adhd; children; disabilities; disorders; drugs; homosexualagenda; medicine; psychiatrists; psychiatry

1 posted on 11/15/2012 11:59:42 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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To: Academiadotorg
Even medical students are avoiding it

That's because you're all F'ing crazy!

2 posted on 11/15/2012 12:07:17 PM PST by grobdriver
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To: Academiadotorg

One of the surest signs of decay of a society can be judged by simply counting the number of psychiatrists/psychologists in active practice. The numbers and decadence are directly proportional to each other.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 12:10:05 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Academiadotorg
“Every day in the United States, 850 adults and 250 children are added to the federal government’s disability benefit rolls because of mental illness,” McGovern reports. “That means about 400,000 people are incapacitated each year, to say nothing of hundreds of thousands more diagnosed with less-crippling psychiatric illnesses.”

A few years back, I was talking to a psychiatrist at a party. He was complaining that if a school sent a kid to him for evaluation, and they indicated they wanted the kid on Ritalin, his choices were to put the kid on Ritalin, or stop getting referrals from the school.

"Mental disability" diagnosis is now a big business.

4 posted on 11/15/2012 12:11:34 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Academiadotorg

Becoming?!


5 posted on 11/15/2012 12:12:10 PM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Academiadotorg

Anytime you go to a shrink, you’re guaranteed that there’s at least one crazy person in the room.


6 posted on 11/15/2012 12:13:19 PM PST by Salamander (I must be dreaming....please stop screaming.)
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To: Academiadotorg

Also the most likely medical professional to become sexually involved with a patient.

Therapist. “The-rapist”


7 posted on 11/15/2012 12:14:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Academiadotorg
Major “Problem” Nidal Hasan is psychiatrist!
8 posted on 11/15/2012 12:20:22 PM PST by hamboy (Psalm 109:8: Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Shrinks are the biggest drug pushers in the business. The psych meds fail in most cases and it is hell weaning a patient off of them. FIRST.....do no harm. It applies to shrinks too. What a joke.


9 posted on 11/15/2012 12:20:55 PM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Academiadotorg

I know two “ shrinks “ ....both are batshit crazy


10 posted on 11/15/2012 12:26:01 PM PST by Popman
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To: Cyman
One of the surest signs of decay of a society can be judged by simply counting the number of psychiatrists/psychologists in active practice

And there I thought it was the number of lawyers. :)

That said, neither lawyers nor accountants should ever be allowed to run anything. Neither public nor private institutions should ever fall under their control.

I'm not saying that they are useless; I'm not saying that lots of decent, smart, and comptent people don't make their livings in these professions. But as groups, their mind--sets are not conducive to production.

11 posted on 11/15/2012 12:27:27 PM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: Academiadotorg

Every psych instructor I had in college was a foaming idiot!


12 posted on 11/15/2012 12:29:02 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Academiadotorg

Psychiatry is the religion established by the Judiciary Branch.


13 posted on 11/15/2012 12:31:27 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Academiadotorg

The $500 million to $24 billion number is misleading.

1. We now have a large number of people who have been using recreational drugs for decades, so that could account for an increased number of people who need anti-psychotics to deal with the long term effects of such usage.

2. There are a lot of drugs, when used properly, can provide real help for those who have the real ailment (not counting the teacher who just doesn’t like normal boys in the classroom.) These useful drugs just didn’t exist 20 years ago.


14 posted on 11/15/2012 12:35:03 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Cyman

Worse indicator is the number of lawyers practicing.

Even worse indicator is number of government employees increasing every year.


15 posted on 11/15/2012 12:36:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Academiadotorg

Maybe they would be more legitimate if they didn’t bow to political pressure in their medical advice...aka homosexuality.


16 posted on 11/15/2012 12:39:36 PM PST by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Popman

I’ve sort of forgotten why we call them “shrinks”. Does anyone recall?

Does it have something to do with “shrunken heads” and maybe the archetype of the witch doctor? Something like that?


17 posted on 11/15/2012 12:42:52 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Academiadotorg
One in four women now take pills for their mental health.

Throughout history have 25% of women been exhibiting mental disability such that pharmacological intervention is warranted - or is it that such drugs are over prescribed?

Once depression was something you experienced and then got over - now it is apparently a condition that requires lifelong pharmacological and psychiatric intervention. LIFELONG.

Add to this the fact that placebo is just about as effective as most antidepressants and we see what this is about.

“Dr. Feel Good has a pill for that honey, all you need to do is have a monthly evaluation ($) and I will write you a prescription to make those blues go away!”

18 posted on 11/15/2012 12:43:50 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Popman

No kidding...I interviewed for a job at a local mental hospital several years ago - administrative assistant to the head psychologist...he scared me more than the patients wandering around the hall - creepy dosen’t begin to cover it... - I didn’t take the job... *shudders*


19 posted on 11/15/2012 12:47:08 PM PST by dixiebelle
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To: ConservativeDude

I would see a witch doctor before seeing

a psychologist


20 posted on 11/15/2012 12:48:13 PM PST by Popman
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To: Dr. Sivana

1. We now have a large number of people who have been using recreational drugs for decades, so that could account for an increased number of people who need anti-psychotics to deal with the long term effects of such usage.

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If you are counting alcoholics among this number ...I agree. I bet psych hospitals are seeing at least 20% eval for drug/alcohol induced dementia.


21 posted on 11/15/2012 12:51:00 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Academiadotorg

Some in that field are very good.

I went to a psychiatrist once. It was a few decades ago, the year I had graduated from college. I had run out of money, moved back home with my parents, was very depressed, and doing terribly in job interviews. The psychiatrist basically told me the following:

1. “With your qualifications, you should have a professional job right now. You’re just not trying hard enough.”

2. “Stop blaming your parents for your problems. Be thankful they were willing to let you move back home and are providing for you.”

3. “You say you’re sending out resumes, but you’re not. By our next session, I want you to have applied for one job. I will be asking.” (I said “I could apply for 20 jobs in a week” but the psychiatrist just wanted me to apply for one job. He knew I would say 20 and do none, and it was better to say one and do one. The next session, he said “apply for two jobs by the next session” and soon, I was off and running on my own.)

Within two months, I had a professional job, moved out of my parent’s home, and never went back. No drugs—just honest assessment and direction.


22 posted on 11/15/2012 1:00:16 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Academiadotorg

Some in that field are very good.

I went to a psychiatrist once. It was a few decades ago, the year I had graduated from college. I had run out of money, moved back home with my parents, was very depressed, and doing terribly in job interviews. The psychiatrist basically told me the following:

1. “With your qualifications, you should have a professional job right now. You’re just not trying hard enough.”

2. “Stop blaming your parents for your problems. Be thankful they were willing to let you move back home and are providing for you.”

3. “You say you’re sending out resumes, but you’re not. By our next session, I want you to have applied for one job. I will be asking.” (I said “I could apply for 20 jobs in a week” but the psychiatrist just wanted me to apply for one job. He knew I would say 20 and do none, and it was better to say one and do one. The next session, he said “apply for two jobs by the next session” and soon, I was off and running on my own.)

Within two months, I had a professional job, moved out of my parent’s home, and never went back. No drugs—just honest assessment and direction.


23 posted on 11/15/2012 1:00:57 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Academiadotorg
“Every day in the United States, 850 adults and 250 children are added to the federal government’s disability benefit rolls because of mental illness,” McGovern reports. “That means about 400,000 people are incapacitated each year, to say nothing of hundreds of thousands more diagnosed with less-crippling psychiatric illnesses.”

Or we have 400,000 people gaming the system because mental illness disabilities are the hardest to objectively disprove. If someone claims a disability because he's missing a leg and you can count both of his legs still attached you can catch him for fraud. How do you disprove "voices in the head"?

24 posted on 11/15/2012 1:01:29 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Academiadotorg
Here's a little factual information for the troglodytes to consider. I know facts are increasingly unpopular on FR anymore, but they are stubborn things that will not go away.

Until the mid-1950's there were no effective psychiatric drugs.

What passed for meds back then was mostly barbiturates, for anxiety and behavior agitation, and amphetamines for depression and lethargy.

Half of all hospital beds in the United States in the mid-fifties were occupied by mental patients, most of them going nowhere fast, receiving no treatment to speak of, and living in custodial institutions in rural areas, away from the sensitive eyes of the public, and which came to be known as "funny farms."

Discharged and left to their own devices, they died.

Compare that to today, when many hospitals have only a few, if any, psych beds at all, and lengths of stay are measured usually in days, not years.

Meds used today generally are not addictive and destructive like the barbiturates and amphetamines were. Some have side effects, to be sure--any effective medicine of any sort will have side effects in some percentage of the population.

But for most people, the price is a small one to pay for being able to function reasonably well in the community.

End of message from Reality-- we now return to the previously scheduled rantings and ravings of the juvenile ignorati.

25 posted on 11/15/2012 1:05:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Academiadotorg
People who go into Psychiatry/Psychology do so to try to figure out what's wrong with themselves. Admittedly, I have quite a few PSYs on my transcript.
26 posted on 11/15/2012 1:06:09 PM PST by real saxophonist (Stay In The Fight)
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To: Academiadotorg
"I've never met a psychiatrist who didn't need one"--George Putnam
27 posted on 11/15/2012 1:11:05 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Academiadotorg

Western philosphy and culture produced certain results among professionals and the public in the West.

Liberalism’s humanist philosphy and it’s amoral and corrupt culture - produces the results we see today in all professions and at all levels of society.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 1:12:01 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Our man in washington

Sounds more like a priest than a shrink.


29 posted on 11/15/2012 1:48:44 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Cyman
One of the surest signs of decay of a society can be judged by simply counting the number of psychiatrists/psychologists in active practice. The numbers and decadence are directly proportional to each other.

Indeed. In reality, psychiatry/psychology is the new religion of secular humanism. But you won't hear any leftist screaming about the "separation" of THIS "church" and state.

30 posted on 11/15/2012 1:48:48 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: allmendream
I don't know about 25%, but the numbers used to be higher for both sexes. Then, they discovered penicillin and there syphilis-induced insanity went away, and the could get rid of the looney bins. And I do mean looney bins with the rubber rooms and straightjackets, as the damage that syphilis can do is to render you a raving lunatic.

Chronic Lyme disease is strongly associated with depression, so I think there are still cures to come, but not from the shrinks.

31 posted on 11/15/2012 2:10:26 PM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Academiadotorg
Chemical disorders of the brain *do* exist.Such disorders have the potential to cause serious difficulties.If medications are able to reverse these disorders they should be used.Medications must be prescribed by physicians and psychiatrists are physicians.
33 posted on 11/15/2012 2:28:21 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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To: Our man in washington

You stil repeat yourself though. Might need a refresher!


34 posted on 11/15/2012 2:33:09 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Popman
I always heard that the people who went into that field did it to try and cure themselves first.
35 posted on 11/15/2012 2:33:32 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Academiadotorg

In the 10+ years I’ve been looking at the stats, my local school district has had 20.0% of kids diagnosed “special needs”.

What an astoundingly round number.

What a vile and debased system.


36 posted on 11/15/2012 3:12:22 PM PST by Vide
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To: Ditter

They call it self-diagnosis.


37 posted on 11/15/2012 3:16:38 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Mamzelle
Sounds more like a priest than a shrink.

Whatever works!

38 posted on 11/15/2012 4:07:03 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: PapaBear3625

It’s also a big political business.

More and more countries will classify you as deranged/delusional if you don’t have the correct leftist outlook.


39 posted on 11/15/2012 5:55:45 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Academiadotorg

Freud was an evil devil


40 posted on 11/15/2012 8:18:57 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: allmendream
People use to self-medicate. Opium and alcohol were the most popular ways to make your problems go away. And since beer was considered a perfectly respectable drink from morning to night it was possible to be at least mildly potted most of your waking life.

Back then you were not depressed, you were melancholy. You were not expected to get better and no one was surprised when you died in a strange accident involving a rope and chair or cleaning your gun or possibly ate something that disagreed with you.

Later on they reached for "mother's little helper".

Now people are expected to be sober and functional most of the time.

Sometimes the pills help. Sometimes other things help. But the odd idea that depression and other mental conditions is somehow something that has just appeared is to ignore history.

41 posted on 11/15/2012 8:38:02 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Academiadotorg
Psychology is worse. It's almost entirely a pseudo-science. Unfortunately, all teacher colleges are steeped in it.
42 posted on 11/15/2012 8:47:43 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Academiadotorg

The Communists love psychiatry.


43 posted on 11/16/2012 7:22:15 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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