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Toldya. Paul Ryan VP Pick Not Pushing Polls Up for Mitt Romney So Far
RantPolitical.com ^ | 8-15-2012 | PolitiJim (@politiJim)

Posted on 08/15/2012 8:41:30 AM PDT by rightjb

As predicted, the Paul Ryan VP pick by Mitt Romney has not changed GOP support for Mitt Romney, nor has it substantially changed the opinion of Independent voters. The Economist/YouGov poll showed of those supporting Mitt Romney, 38% are doing so because of Mitt Romney, versus 61% motivated by voting against the President. That is only a 1% increase from 37% a week ago.

Among Independent voters, Romney still leads the President by a double digit margin of 50% to 36% as opposed to 48%/37% a week ago.

This isn’t surprising to PolitiJim readers who know that 43% of Americans simply have no idea who Paul Ryan is, and an even larger number understand that Paul Ryan does not necessarily have any influence on the policies of a potential Romney administration. As Dan Mitchell of the CATO Institute pointed out yesterday, even that would be a mixed bag. While Ryan does advocate a slowing of government spending, his TEA Party credentials are more shaky. Ryan has never stood up to tough cutting decisions whether he was one of 20 of the GOP Establishment who voted for TARP or a Boehner / Cantor clone who refused to stand with Jim DeMint and the TEA Party 22 during the budget ceiling debate.

But in the end, this is NOT about Paul Ryan, but Mitt Romney and these new numbers indicate that. It will take more than conventional politics to beat Obama.

The real truth of the impact of the Paul Ryan poll numbers is 4 fold:

Paul Ryan VP Pick Not Pushing Polls Up for Mitt Romney So Far

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; blogpimp; mittromney; paulryan; polls
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1 posted on 08/15/2012 8:41:43 AM PDT by rightjb
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To: rightjb
NOT the YouGov poll!!!


2 posted on 08/15/2012 8:43:58 AM PDT by Perdogg (It's time to come together for America)
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To: rightjb

I’m sure it’s a relief for you, to find that your man Obama is not (yet) behind in the polls.

Thank you for all of your concern-trolliness and stuff.


3 posted on 08/15/2012 8:45:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: rightjb

Give it time. Ryan is an advocate, not a household name. The more he talks, the better off we are — unlike our opponent’s running-mate.

SnakeDoc


4 posted on 08/15/2012 8:45:50 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: rightjb; Admin Moderator

Blog pimp troll alert


5 posted on 08/15/2012 8:46:38 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rightjb

Go peddle your little blog somewhere else.


6 posted on 08/15/2012 8:49:00 AM PDT by X-spurt (It is truly time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: rightjb
And Yougov is a respected polling outfit? Lessee, did they nail 1994? Ras did. Did they nail 2000 and 2004? Ras did (some others did, most didn't, NONE got 1994 except Ras).

I'll wait for a real poll.

7 posted on 08/15/2012 8:49:08 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: rightjb

I never believe a word an extreme left-wingers says about Republican candidates. Why post this drivel?


8 posted on 08/15/2012 8:51:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: rightjb

What does Rasmussen say?


9 posted on 08/15/2012 8:54:11 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: rightjb

Leftist propaganda drivel!


10 posted on 08/15/2012 8:55:48 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: rightjb

So much for your polling of the younger voters:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/a-romney-first-over-40-of-youth-vote-back-him/article/2504893


11 posted on 08/15/2012 8:56:26 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Double Tap

or Gallup, who had obama ahead last week...never mind recent state polls in Ohio, Virginia


12 posted on 08/15/2012 8:57:09 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: rightjb

Good grief.

Four days since the announcement.


13 posted on 08/15/2012 8:57:30 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: rightjb

14 posted on 08/15/2012 8:57:58 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: rightjb

And now Romney with a 4-point lead:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

And Ryan favorables now UP:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/august_2012/50_now_view_paul_ryan_favorably_43_say_he_was_right_choice

I guess neither Rasmussen or Zogby know anything . . .


15 posted on 08/15/2012 8:59:13 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: rightjb
(Excerpt) Read more at rantpolitical.com ...
Why excerpt? Didn't you give yourself permission to post the whole thing?
16 posted on 08/15/2012 9:00:11 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: rightjb

The pick was done to make the ticket an ideological one, not to push up the polls.

It will take some time for the campaign to move away from a conventional one fighting to dupe the mushy middle into voting for them, and to turn into one where ideological battles are fought, with Obama representing socialism and Romney/Ryan representing capitalism.

The Dems might win the publicity war in the short term, but I expect that by the time October rolls around, Americans won’t be nitpicking at the merits of one candidate over another, they’ll be arguing bitterly over whether to go down socialism or to go back down capitalism.

I’m anti-Romney but I have to admit that the turn of events Romney is trying to achieve is nothing short of genius.


17 posted on 08/15/2012 9:00:38 AM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: rightjb

As predicted, the Paul Ryan VP pick by Mitt Romney has not changed GOP support for Mitt Romney, nor has it substantially changed the opinion of Independent voters. The Economist/YouGov poll showed of those supporting Mitt Romney, 38% are doing so because of Mitt Romney, versus 61% motivated by voting against the President. That is only a 1% increase from 37% a week ago.

Among Independent voters, Romney still leads the President by a double digit margin of 50% to 36% as opposed to 48%/37% a week ago.

This isn’t surprising to PolitiJim readers who know that 43% of Americans simply have no idea who Paul Ryan is, and an even larger number understand that Paul Ryan does not necessarily have any influence on the policies of a potential Romney administration. As Dan Mitchell of the CATO Institute pointed out yesterday, even that would be a mixed bag. While Ryan does advocate a slowing of government spending, his TEA Party credentials are more shaky. Ryan has never stood up to tough cutting decisions whether he was one of 20 of the GOP Establishment who voted for TARP or a Boehner / Cantor clone who refused to stand with Jim DeMint and the TEA Party 22 during the budget ceiling debate.

But in the end, this is NOT about Paul Ryan, but Mitt Romney and these new numbers indicate that. As Hillary Clinton learned in 2008, you can win the popular AND delegate count, and the Obama machine can fix the election how they want. It will take more than conventional politics to beat Obama.

The real truth of the impact of the Paul Ryan poll numbers is 4 fold:

Romney has given Obama an escape from direct scrutiny on jobs and the economy, while shifting the entire discussion to a referendum on Ryan’s (and Romney’s) Medicare/Medicaid proposal. Dick Morris points out that while Ryan is a good VP candidate, this makes the election rhetoric a much riskier proposition for the Romney campaign. Since Ryan is a blank canvas, there is a better chance of the Obama-loving mainstream media defining Ryan for the American public like they did Sarah Palin, despite most of it being false.
Over a third of voters are not even paying attention to the Presidential race yet. Not only will many make up their minds in the last couple of weeks based on what they glean from mainstream media sources and friends, at this moment Obama would dominate UNLIKELY voters who are only prone to show up in the event of a close race. Despite heavy poll skewing toward Democrats, on a national popular vote, Romney could be leading by as many as 6%. Clearly with the Department of Homeland Security buying 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition and riot gear, the “insider” reports of planned civil unrest could dramatically influence poll numbers, as could an attack on Iran or other “orchestrated” events to see Obama get a temporary surge like he did in killing Osama Bin Laden. Just Google “Bernanke QE3 rumors” and you’ll find many mainstream Wall Streeters who believe Obama will try another flood of cash to get good economic numbers in October prior to election. The reality is that in EVERY election Obama has been in, there have been egregious manipulations to do whatever it takes to get him in office. After stealing the nomination in 2008, he simply didn’t need it.
Democrat insider, Pat Caddel and former DOJ whistleblower Christian Abrams, both reiterated at the National True the Vote Summit that this election will come down to 8 or 10 swing states – not the popular vote. At the moment, Obama is leading in these states and in the electoral college calculations by a substantial margin. Just as Mitt Rommey was able to overwhelm Newt Gingrich’s prospective wins in Iowa and Florida by a barrage of false negative ads, Obama seems to be winning the same way. Many point out that some of these polls are skewed toward Democrat voters who do not look like they will turn out the way they did in 2008. That may be true, except for the uncalculated impact of voter fraud efforts in these states.
It is not only the “Chicago way” of stealing elections, it is also the Minnesota, Nevada, and Democrat way. Democrats have long been focused on stealing elections as they did in getting Saturday Night Live comedian Al Franken elected to the Senate by only 312 votes. In addition to numerous other problems, 1099 felons illegally voted to give him that margin. Obama has hired a historic legion of lawyers to do battle understanding that in the heat of an election, they can get friendly judges to perform the same Minnesota magic to eek out a win. Traditionally, voter integrity groups such as True the Vote have suggested that an election can be stolen with a margin 4% or less. However, with Obama’s refusal to prosecute illegal immigrants through his unconstitutional DREAM Act executive order and unheard of increases in fake voter registrations, the likely margin could double. Or more. Therefore, the GOP nominee would need to win those swing states that he is currently tied or losing, by a margin of 8% or more.

Although many conservatives are overjoyed at the Ryan pick, their enthusiasm might be short lived, when they understand how the corrupt new world of Obama actually plays out at the polls. The voters who make a difference are NOT those who listen to Rush Limbaugh or who are watching their Twitter timelines. They are going to those who are most prone to manipulation by the mainstream media.

UCLA Lynn Vavreck professor says that in those kinds of close elections, candidates with “big” themes and ideas tend to win. My guess is that Medicare reform isn’t one of those that will resonate with large groups of unsophisticated voters.


18 posted on 08/15/2012 9:02:01 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: rightjb

Author seems to have ignored RCP postings from yesterday, that clearly show a bump.


19 posted on 08/15/2012 9:02:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: humblegunner

He’s back!


20 posted on 08/15/2012 9:02:13 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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