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To: jmstein7

I’m a Police Officer in North Dakota. I carry off-duty every day. Do I believe in gun control? To an extent, yes. Do I believe that people should still be allowed to purchase and carry concealed firearms? Yes. Do I believe that it would have changed the outcome of this at all? No.

In a dark theater, I doubt even I would be able to pinpoint who the shooter was, what with all the panicked people running around me, trying to get out. If I did return fire, with people everywhere, I’m just as likely to hit a civilian as I am the shooter. I would have drawn my firearm, but I wouldn’t have tried to shoot back, save for a contact shot if he came close enough for me to do so. I would have run for the exit with everyone else, and tried to push as many people out as I could.

Now, lets add tear gas, which our shooter also used, to this mess. I’ve been tear gassed before. It sucks. You go blind, and you start choking almost immediately. I could barely say my name or date of birth, and that was after 10 seconds of exposure. It took 20 minutes for me to recover. While choking on that shit, I guarantee I wouldn’t have been able to locate any one person in particular in a crowd.

Ruy Dias de Bivar mentioned that if you shot him in the “head, neck, legs, crotch, arms...” it would have stopped him. Picture this:

It’s in a dark theater. The only light present is that from the projector. It’s a midnight showing of a major movie, so the theater is packed with people. Now, they’re all running around, trying to escape someone shooting. The room is full of gas that’s causing you to choke, and your eyes to burn. He has a rifle. You have a pistol. You have to hit him in small, highly mobile areas such as the head, neck, or arms (possibly groin, depending on the type of body armor he had). What are your chances of hitting him in one of those highly specific areas, and not hit a single civilian?

Not odds I’d like to take.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 7:13:22 PM PDT by RipTorn
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To: RipTorn; CodeToad

***Ruy Dias de Bivar mentioned that if you shot him in the “head, neck, legs, crotch, arms...”***

I didn’t say that. See my post #4. It is easy to confuse my comment with others like post # 20.


25 posted on 07/20/2012 7:52:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: RipTorn

“What are your chances of hitting him in one of those highly specific areas, and not hit a single civilian?”

Well, gosh, I guess when a bad guy enters a crowded theater just run and hope not to be a victim.


26 posted on 07/20/2012 8:18:28 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: RipTorn

“What are your chances of hitting him in one of those highly specific areas, and not hit a single civilian?”

Well, gosh, I guess when a bad guy enters a crowded theater just run and hope not to be a victim.


27 posted on 07/20/2012 8:18:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: RipTorn
"I’m a Police Officer in North Dakota. I carry off-duty every day. ...I would have drawn my firearm, but I wouldn’t have tried to shoot back, ...I would have run for the exit with everyone else, and tried to push as many people out as I could.

What a sad piece of work you are. You signed up today just to post this and claim no citizen carrying would have been able to do anyhting else — raspberries.

46 posted on 07/21/2012 11:18:22 PM PDT by spunkets
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