Skip to comments.OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES
Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
It now appears the worst fears of the U.S. Constitutions framers were well founded as investigators working on behalf of the ongoing investigation into the Constitutional eligibility of Barack Obama have found yet another lead in a growing mountain of evidence within the public records section of the British National Archives indicating the occurrence of at least four vital events registered to the name of Barack Obama, taking place in the British Protectorate of East Africa (Kenya) between 1953 and 1963, including the birth of two sons before 1963.
The record of birth of a second son prior to Kenyan independence is significant because biographical information about Obamas family indicates Obama Sr. fathered only one other son prior to Obama IIs birth.
The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled Burack and Biraq) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.
To date, Barack Obama II is the only known alleged son of Obama Sr. born after 1960 and before the independence of Kenya became official in 1963.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailypen.blogspot.com ...
Billy boy is 5.10"
pssst....I SAID MAYBE
IIRC, upthread, according to Fred Nerks, this is the number of “researchers” who have bought into the Mal-Val narrative and are supposedly researching it.
If you were reading closely I was complaining about incoherent narratives consisting of delusional confabulation spammed over and over with nothing new seeming to be used only to attempt to recruit new “researchers” and believers in your illogical Mal-Val CT narrative.
“Now you just hold your horses, your bluster is beginning to stray into deliberately misleading detail there...ONE BOY IS OLDER THAN THE OTHER, by less than one year, is my estimation. And I’ve said so many many times.”
Your narrative only works if the boys are about 7 months apart because you claim they are Roman Obama and Barry, both born in 1961. The two boys in the studio shoot, who are actually David and Mark, have the long-bones in the legs and also to torso length of boys aged 2 and 4 respectively.
You can’t overwhelm that fact (or my neurological condition) with a lot of bright shinny pictures and bloviation with lots of CAPS that you are so good at posting over and over again.
They are NOT codes, they are ABBREVIATIONS and descriptions.
The line records do not specify the identity or names of the children, only gender. However, the line records are associated with index numbers of actual microfilm copies of certificates, licenses and registration applications filed in the archives. According to researchers, Obamas line records were discovered in Series RG36, reference books. Not surprisingly, when researchers specifically requested access to the relevant microfilm for the Obama birth registrations, they were told that the records were currently held under an outdated privileged access status, meaning researchers were denied access under Chapter 52, Sections 3 and 5 of the British Public Records Act of 1958.
Excerpting from the link IMHO the CIA, DIA,Secret Service whomever, got to these docs before we did and that's why they are not available.
Without confirmation from the "unavailable" docs we have no smoking gun.
John Brennan: After leaving government service in 2005, Brennan became CEO of The Analysis Corporation, a security consulting business, and served as chairman of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance, an association of intelligence professionals. Brennan's 25 years with the CIA included work as a Near East and South Asia analyst, as station chief in Saudi Arabia, and as director of the National Counterterrorism Center.
And as CEO of The Analysis Corporation Brennan employed the subcontractor who accessed Obama's passport files.
Brennan, who donated to Obama's 2008 campaign, was Obama's first choice for Director of Central Intelligence.
Imagine, the former CIA station chief in Saudi, accessing Obama's passport files, number one draft pick for DCI.
And lo and behold records in the BNA are held under an "outdated privileged access status"--
The legend continues.
Actually there are complaints now about your bullying and abuse when your illogical comments are challenged. Several reports of abuse have been made to JimRob and the mods on this thread due to your bullying abuse.
My biggest complaint is that you are not content to put forward you own Mal-Val CT narrative in a straightforward manner on threads of your own and in comments. Instead, you make sniper-like attacks on any thread or FReeper comment that conflicts with your delusional narrative that “Stanley Ann was never in HI before 1963” and “David Obama never existed” and “Zero is the child of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf.”
You do that. Then you can CONTROL the entire site. You direct freepers to where they can post stuff, and we’ll send you a baton, so you can conduct every thread on every subject.
Just what I contribute to FR for. The be told where and when to post comments.
Incidently there were never more than nine or ten of us, all dealing with different aspects of the story, some came and went, others took their place, some are still active others are not. And the reason we operated off the threads is because the moment we posted a link, it would disappear.
YOU OWN THAT STATEMENT. I NEVER WROTE THAT OR SAID THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ELSE WHO DID. YOU'RE THE FIRST AND ONLY ONE. However, if that's the conclusion you have reached as the result of items and articles posted, then maybe there's something to it. I'll take it on board.
Really good info there.Problem is there are so many commies far left losers and other socialists,not to mention all the MB and other muzzies that are now infiltrating the country at every level in the regime its almost anyone’s guess who is doing the dirty work.
I have read a few things about Brennan and seen him in action a few times. You really may be on to something there.
“Incidently there were never more than nine or ten of us, all dealing with different aspects of the story, some came and went, others took their place, some are still active others are not.”
1,010 posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49:12 PM by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
The jacket. I think I remember someone saying something about that kind of jacket.
I wrote that in relation to the thousands of comments on the two long threads - many of which could certainly be classed as OFF TOPIC - but there were never any complaints then.
And now you translate that into Actually there are complaints now about your bullying and abuse when your illogical comments are challenged. Several reports of abuse have been made to JimRob and the mods on this thread due to your bullying abuse.
That's nothing but a dishonest twisting of words and you know it. The one is entirely without relationship to the other. And telling you I think you are a control freak isn't abuse, it's an observation.
So you say. IMO the best way to keep things from disappearing off of the web is to publish them to millions and also store offline.
Now that the big secret narrative is out regarding Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf as parents of Barry there would seem to be no problem with starting a new thread, IMO.
and what’s your point troll?
5’10”. Hmm. The big head/black jacketed fellow doesn’t really look as tall as Zero is, can’t remember if I read how tall Genevieve is.
It’s really odd that you call opinions that differ from yours “Hijacking”.
Do you own this thread or something?
Tell me, just WHAT is your problem with that information? That a group of freepers might engage in research without posting their results on the forum to protect their sources, why should that bother you so much?
Let me give you an example.
The article in which Virginia Goeldner says that Madelyn told her in 1982 that the boys mother had died in 1970, the one you so vehemtly objected to, (which was posted on FR by Chief Engineer btw) HAS ONLY RECENTLY BEEN REMOVED.
Did you have anything to do with that?
You have no proof of who those two boys are, other than the words of Mark Njesando (sp?). And he later photoshopped the photo (don’t you wonder why??) and then removed.
You have No Other Evidence.
I've never seen any evidence that she was in HI pre-1963. Just one or two people saying that she was, even Abercrombie doesn't really "remember" her. Eye witnesses? I haven't read of one. Just the author of Dreams, really. And the 0bama toadying suckup Maraniss.
..."David Obama never existed
There is no evidence that he ever existed, just a couple of peoples' fact/evidence free assertions and two (yes, two) photos, one of which is a strange and crappy mixup job, and the other one oddly enough looks exactly like the baby/toddler photos of the guy in the White House.
And your accusations of bullying and "abuse" by Fred Nerks are pretty funny, coming from you.
Now we get to the nitty gritty, the dirty deed rears its ugly head as I suspected it eventually must. I'll not refer to it again or name the guilty party. Private Mail discussions with someone who offered to keep a record of research materials and source links were meant to remain private and not be circulated to over a hundred people on a pinglist, with the researchers names still attached.
And that is what you are beating me over the head with, you disgusting scumbag. If there's anyone who is incoherent as you stated in a pervious comment, it's the person who sent out a missive of disjointed information collected at random from material that was meant to be saved off-site until such time as further information was available. If the result of this episode is that you manage to have me removed from FR as a contributor, I shall remind you, if that happens, I'll take it as a compliment. As it stands, there are two of you DEAD to me. Got that?
I have read a few things about Brennan and seen him in action a few times. You really may be on to something there.
Brennan has been in the vanguard of sanitizing the official documents of the term Islamic terrorism.
Daniel Pipes has marked him--and I find Pipes to be the best on the region:
And this regime found nothing amiss in Iran in 2009--shoot the women in the streets.
And of course Ft. Hood and Hassan the soldier of allah was a case of workplace violence.
I will stand with them.
I will stand with Raila Odinga in Kenya in 2006 when my cousin was the muslim candidate "struggling against the believers of the cross" and burning them in their church.
When Ayers was toasting Chavez in Caracas, "Viva la revolucion bolivariana! Hasta la victoria siempre!"
And the IRGC (Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps) is in Bolivia with Chavez' military.
Perhaps it is no great stretch to mark Zero as an instrument of Islamo-Communist struggle.
Of course McCain goes to the mat with Bachmann over Huma the agent of influence of the Saudis over Hillary.
McCain wasn't afraid of an Obama presidency.
The infiltration proceeds apace.
Although it bears no registrar signature or seal, it was for too quickly written off as a fake -
Comment #7 appears to have translated a message on the back of the document, but I can't see a word of it, so how it was translated from the DUTCH (?) is a bit over my head...and this couldn't be the document that triggered the Lucas DOC with the footprint, because the time of BIRTH is not the same. This piece of paper is however, much more like it's English counterpart than the Bomford South Australian fake, which was the result of a family member with access to the Bomford Family genealogy site having access to the document shown there, and downloading it.
Since I have withdrawn my small, but game dog from this fight, can I have some feedback on Sheriff Joe's latest round of revelations? I need to know if, IYHO, I am daft for putting all of my short-term mental efforts into this particular, rather limited basket. That is I feel the most productive use of my time is trying to bring awareness of the forgery, or to be kind, "the modification" of the material Obama got from HI, before posting on his WH website.
By the cold light of dawn, I fear that Obama will be long gone as the plot unravels. So, it's really not about HIM after all. It's about preserving the Constitutional route to the Presidency and establishing once and for all clear and constitutional guidelines. Our founders, au fond 18th C. Christian gentlemen, never anticipated attacks on the system by Communist thugs and a sharp-looking but rather dumb teleprompter jockey from God knows what or where.
Sitting on my porch in Australia, watching him when he said that, a cold chill spread over me. I'll never forget that. It was a day of infamy no less than 9/1l.
The only thing lacking is courage and principles amongst those in positions of authority who could actually initiate or influence action or public opinion, or really do something, from judges, governors, state legislators, state secretaries of state, elections officials; to Congressmen, Senators, judges and gasp media people and talk show people. Maybe I left out some kinds of officials/public people/people with influence.
If none of them do or say anything, what can us commoners do? Got any ideas? Sheriff Joe and his posse have done yeomans’ work, but who among the list above has acted on it? Praised their efforts? Made any comments? It’s as though every personage of power and influence has become an evil mindless zombie.
Trying to research or find out who the *ucker in the White House is, gives us something to do in the meantime. Since no one here (say on this thread, most likely) is among the list of notables above, what other employment could be found for us?
Sharpening pitchforks and heating buckets of tar, and collecting feather pillows to unsew?
“I’ll not refer to it again or name the guilty party. Private Mail discussions with someone who offered to keep a record of research materials and source links were meant to remain private and not be circulated to over a hundred people on a pinglist, with the researchers names still attached.”
You know very well that David and you together in context were the first, to my knowledge, to post a clear exposure of Valerie Sarruf as your claimed mother of BHO II on a public FR thread.
My comment #631 on this thread includes links to the posts where you and David did this:
Fuad Sarruf (~1900-)
m. (1928) Lily Zelpha Majdalany (1903-1998)
Valerie Zelpha Helen Sarruf (1940-)
Lorice Sarruf (1907-1991)
m. Philippe Elias Toutonghi (1899-2000)
ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY OF BEIRUT
212 posted on 07/09/2012 5:37:37 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
And, Lorice, as you say, first cousin to Faud, is first cousin once removed to Faud’s daughter Valerie; and is thus first counsin twice removed to Fauds grandson by daughter Valerie and we all know who he is.
273 posted on 07/10/2012 7:40:02 AM PDT by David
...And, Lorice, as you say, first cousin to Faud, is first cousin once removed to Faud’s daughter Valerie; and is thus first counsin twice removed to Fauds grandson by daughter Valerie and we all know who he is.
Look at this, I found an image of that Valerie, she played a part in a TV series named The Avengers in the UK in an episode from the 1962-1963 series:
294 posted on 07/10/2012 3:14:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
You can find a lot of interesting information relative to this above document at
The author indicates that the birth started in one hospital and finished in a another, and the BHO jr has sent tons of money to this hospital via earmarked AIDS-related grants instigated by him and approved by congress.
It appears that the GOP elite has calculated that it is within reach to remove Barry through public rejection of his communistic policies at the polls, rather than on what they regard as a constitutional technicality which Barry can evade until bast the election at this rate unless actual shocking, breathtaking evidence is found that Barry was born in Kenya, IMO. Drilling down to that kind of evidence is what this thread's article is about. Trying to prove his HI BC is forged appears to be out of reach, given all of the protection, unless the Maricopa Co. AG wants to go after it.
They had different bedrooms...some romance! He was probably the man who came to dinner and never left.
Perhaps whoever created the HI fake, telephoned Mombasa and said, go and register that birth now, and forgot to tell them what time to put on the application? Seriously, if you knew the condition of the roads in Kenya, or how long it would take on an overcrowded train to get from the nearest station to the village to Mombasa, there's no way you would believe anyone would be visiting friends for a festival. In 1962, I doubt if anyone in the village even had shoes...
Ayers' work; hippie/marxist bodice ripper.
It’s from 50 Shades of Grey, no?
Let's just duck down to Mombasa for the weekend:
From what I gather it’s from Maraniss’ book, pretending to quote Genevieve the fake girlfriend’s hot memories of the fag in the White House.
THE REVIEWS ARE HOT!
A new book due out next month, Barack Obama: The Story, by Washington Post reporter David Maraniss finally reveals the identity of two of Obamas long-lost girlfriends. As if that wasnt fascinating enough, it also includes excerpts of the love letters he sent to one of them and diary entries from the other.
The six page excerpt [published in Vanity Fair] focuses on two of Obamas early girlfriends. One, named Alex McNear, Obama met at Occidental College before he transferred to Columbia, the Post writes in a teaser. She came to New York for a summer, the start of a long-distance, letter-based relationship in 1982. The other, Genevieve Cook, was a diplomats daughter he met at a party.
Maraniss got a hold of many of the letters Obama sent to McNear. And those letters, Maraniss writes in an excerpt for Vanity Fair, reveal the loneliness of Obamas New York existence.
One letter featured Obamas reaction to McNear writing a paper on T.S. Eliots The Waste Land.
His reply wove its way through literature, politics, and personal philosophy, Maraniss writes. Heres what hes talking about:
I havent read The Waste Land for a year, and I never did bother to check all the footnotes. But I will hazard these statementsEliot contains the same ecstatic vision which runs from Münzer to Yeats. However, he retains a grounding in the social reality/order of his time. Facing what he perceives as a choice between ecstatic chaos and lifeless mechanistic order, he accedes to maintaining a separation of asexual purity and brutal sexual reality. And he wears a stoical face before this. Read his essay on Tradition and the Individual Talent, as well as Four Quartets, when hes less concerned with depicting moribund Europe, to catch a sense of what I speak. Remember how I said theres a certain kind of conservatism which I respect more than bourgeois liberalismEliot is of this type. Of course, the dichotomy he maintains is reactionary, but its due to a deep fatalism, not ignorance. (Counter him with Yeats or Pound, who, arising from the same milieu, opted to support Hitler and Mussolini.) And this fatalism is born out of the relation between fertility and death, which I touched on in my last letterlife feeds on itself. A fatalism I share with the western tradition at times. You seem surprised at Eliots irreconcilable ambivalence; dont you share this ambivalence yourself, Alex? [Emphasis added]
He was trying to find his place in the whirl of humanity, while at the same time refining the literary riffs that filled up page after page of his journals, Maraniss adds, then delivers another passage from the same letter:
Moments trip gently along over here. Snow caps the bushes in unexpected ways, birds shoot and spin like balls of sound. My feet hum over the dry walks. A storm smoothes the sky, impounding the city lights, returning to us a dull yellow glow. I run every other day at the small indoor track [at Columbia] which slants slightly upward like a plate; I stretch long and slow, twist and shake, the fatigue, the inertia finding home in different parts of the body. I check the time and growlaargh!and tumble onto the wheel. And bodies crowd and give off heat, some people are in front and you can hear the patter or plod of the steps behind. You look down to watch your feet, neat unified steps, and you throw back your arms and run after people, and run from them and with them, and sometimes someone will shadow your pace, step for step, and you can hear the person puffing, a different puff than yours, and on a good day theyll come up alongside and thank you for a good run, for keeping a good pace, and you nod and keep going on your way, but youre pretty pleased, and your stride gets lighter, the slumber slipping off behind you, into the wake of the past.
These passages would be very good reading if someone needed an emetic.
pompus little trumped up constipated psuedo-intellectual...
Facing what he perceives as a choice between ecstatic chaos and lifeless mechanistic order, he accedes to maintaining a separation of asexual purity and brutal sexual reality.
And this fatalism is born out of the relation between fertility and death, which I touched on in my last letterlife feeds on itself.
A storm smoothes the sky, impounding the city lights, returning to us a dull yellow glow.
You look down to watch your feet, neat unified steps, and you throw back your arms and run after people, and run from them and with them, and sometimes someone will shadow your pace, step for step, and you can hear the person puffing, a different puff than yours, and on a good day theyll come up alongside and thank you for a good run, for keeping a good pace, and you nod and keep going on your way, but youre pretty pleased, and your stride gets lighter, the slumber slipping off behind you, into the wake of the past.
Facing what we perceive as a choice between an emetic expurgation and clueless pedantic bloviation, he opts for the oblique esoteric allusion and the double-helix of banality and cliche.
And this narcissism is borne of a bisexual conflation of archetypes coupling like angry goats, bleating for release from this life-death-whatever angst.
You look down to watch your custom made shoes and throw back your head, looking down your nose at folks who have not a scintilla of realization that you've given them a good run, from Walla Walla to the shores of Waikiki, from the mud of Mombasa to sands of Indonesia, from the windy tonsils to the virtual park bench.
What a long, strange trip it's been.
From the President of the American University of Beirut who is quoted as saying that the United States would lose World War Three without a shot being fired - to Frank Marshall Davis, selling drugs from a hot-dog stand...
It's been one heck of ride.
Genevieve Helen Cook was born on Jun 7, 1958 Philip Caryl Jessup, Jr. was born on Aug 30, 1926 in Utica, NY
Helen Ibbitson Cook Jessup was born on Apr 29, 1933
THERE NOW APPEARS TO BE A LINK BETWEEN THIS GENEVIEVE COOK AND DOMESTIC TERRORIST BILL AYERS BOTH ATTENDED BANK STREET COLLEGE IN THE EARLY 1980′S WHICH IS ALSO AROUND THE SAME TIME COOK WAS ALLEGED TO BE DATING BARACK OBAMA.
The great grandfather of Philip Caryl Jessup, Jr. was Henry Harris Jessup (18321910) founder of the American University in Beirut, and who's first wife Caroline Bush died in Alexandria, Egytpt.
Does the American University in Beirut and Alexandria, Egypt ring a bell to any of you 0bama researchers?
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