Skip to comments.If Obama wins: Will Texas secede from the union?
Posted on 07/15/2012 3:46:27 PM PDT by cap10mike
Could Texas once again become the Republic of Texas?
Without question, the Nov. 6 election will be a do-or-die, make-or-break, Rubicon-crossing event. If the presidential election goes one way, we get a do-over. Well be given the opportunity to take the first step on a long, arduous journey back to our political and economic roots. If it goes the other way, federalism and balance of power will continue to be edged out by an overreaching federal government and an imperial presidency. Socialism will have an unbreakable hold on the economy, and a centralized government, rather than a free market, will determine business winners and losers.
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If that happens I hope we do to. If not I may move to Texas. I may live like a $hit dog but it would be worth it.
I don’t think we get a do over with Romney, merely a reprieve.
I thought the Civil War effectively ended the right of states to secede.
If the Kenyan does win and Texas does secede, you can call me “Gone to Texas”.
Texas will never secede again, the economy is too dependent on the rest of the nation to do so. It’s the same reason China would never attack America. But, who are we kidding anyways? Romney will be another G.W. Bush and we’ll be explaining away his decisions for a long time to come.
Texas v. White (1869)
When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.
If O made the USA the Obamanation, with more unconstitutional power grabs, as a Texan, I would support secession. The constitution does not prohibit secession, and the Civil War didnt settle the question for all time
Secession at pleasure is not constitutional. I would recommend against starting a war with a nuclear power. To get a constitutional secession you need 3/4s of the states for a constitutional amendment, or perhaps 2/3rds of the Senate and the President to sign via a treaty. If you can muster those kinds of electoral support why can’t you get the other legislation you want?
Obama will instantly declare “Administrative Amnesty” for illegal immigrants.
And Texas will instantly become a “Blue State.”
You are correct.
The south never had the legal right to secede in the first place but Texas v. White (1869) confirmed that succession was illegal.
I refer you to Texas v. White which ruled that secession as pretended by the various state legislatures in 1860-1865 was a legal nullity.
Trade adjustments occur all of the time, but if Texas left others would probably join or would trade with Texas no matter what the feds say. The entire situation would be uncharted territory.
It is very unlikely that Texas would try to secede. Still, I would support it. We don’t need to be yoked with the culturally and economically rotten NE, West Coast, and parts of the upper midwest.
The Federal government will NBC any state before it would
relinquish control. To much wealth and tax base, the banks
would never allow it. It would totally destroy the faith
and credit of the U.S. Once a state tries to secede, It
would become the countries #1 worst enemy. And
Geneva convention rules do not apply.
There is no right one way or the other, Only whether one is willing to force the other. I live in Texas, and, frankly, if Zero wins re-election I will support secession. Texas is in the unique position to do so, we have agriculture, oil, seaports. No one will attack us over it, so why not? It won’t necessarily cause civil war, could actually prevent one.
Not if he picks his buddy Rick Perry as his VP/Running mate.
Texas vs White was after 1861-1865.....the winner declared right through might. I dont consider the question settled for all time. The Constitution itself does not prohibit secession, only the interpretations of the victors prohibits secession.
It wasn’t illegal. The 1869 SCOTUS could hardly be deemed honest precedent on the matter. In 1789 not one state thought it was entering a “roach motel”. The “Perpetual Union” language was in the Articles of Confederation and it was not included in the Constitution.
Ditto. There’ll be nothing left to lose at that point.
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