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Tom Hoefling: Obama usurpation and dereliction merit immediate impeachment and removal
America's Party News ^ | June 17, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 06/17/2012 3:06:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: xzins

No, it wasn’t his conservatism, it was his inherent in-electability. His career spanned decades, but never outside of his district. But I’m not going to rerun the Duncan Hunter discussions. Pissant is long gone, so it’s a pointless exercise. You’re welcome to have the last word on Duncan Hunter, I won’t respond.

I notice that you never addressed my point about conservatives not able to unite and beat Romney in the 2011/12 cycle. That’s really the big issue, not whether or not 256 people vote for Goode, or 298 vote for Hoefling, or 153 vote for some other person with 0.00000000001% chance of getting a single electoral vote.

I’m going to repeat the central astounding fact of the primary campaign: as of April 10, Rick Santorum drop-out day, Romney had gotten 5 million votes, Santorum+Gingrich 6 million. It was an epic failure of conservative non-unity.


161 posted on 06/22/2012 7:28:58 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: samtheman

It was planned that way


162 posted on 06/22/2012 7:40:34 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Right. Conspiracy theory. Very helpful. Just what we need to help us solve our lack-of-unity problem. NOT!


163 posted on 06/22/2012 7:55:15 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: samtheman

Did or did not each know they were splitting the conservative vote?

Occam’s razor.


164 posted on 06/22/2012 8:04:10 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

We’ve reached a point in this discussion where we’re each posting things we’ve already said. Now we’re just going round and round with nothing new being added.

I’m just going to repeat again what I think many conservatives are missing: there was a lack of unity on our part, and it was that lack of unity that opened the door to Romney. That lack of unity is what must be addressed.

How do we address that?

I don’t know the answer, but I do believe that is the question.

As to the fringies, I don’t think any of them are going to have any impact this November.


165 posted on 06/23/2012 3:17:42 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: samtheman

How to avoid it? Run our own candidate

Otherwise it will always be 6 or 7 “willing” conservatives ready to nitpick each other to death.

Or one can assume that’s simply accidental election after election.

Probably would require a conservative party, though, so anone left standing will always still be conservative.

Might as well get started with that process now, though.


166 posted on 06/23/2012 4:09:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I know 2 things about my question:

1. I don’t know the answer

2. You don’t know the answer

You seem like a nice enough individual but honestly, I don’t see this discussion going anywhere. Don’t take it personally if I stop responding to you.

I really want to spend my time now talking to people who understand the dangers of Obama, and what we can do to prevent an Obama 2.0 disaster.

I actually regret posting to this thread and I’m going to avoid such subjects in the future.

There’s only one subject in my mind right now, and that’s defeating Obama.

Have a nice day. Really. I mean that.


167 posted on 06/23/2012 4:13:31 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: samtheman

That’s OK Sam. You, too, have been a polite and considerate poster. While I don’t think this matter is settled for the country, I do agree that conversations sometimes reach a point of repetitiveness.

Thanks for your insights. Hope to win you to our cause some day. :-)


168 posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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It was good talking to you. Have a pleasant summer with your family.


169 posted on 06/23/2012 4:54:05 AM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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