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Preppers: ‘Anywhere from Incredibly Practical to Practically Certifiable’
SHTF Plan ^ | 5/3/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:28:24 PM PDT by Kartographer

With the 2012 Doomsday date quickly approaching, anxiety and fear are gripping more and more people across the globe. According to a recent survey of individuals in over twenty countries, 15% of people worldwide believe the end of the world as we know it will happen in our lifetime.

“Whether they think it will come to an end through the hands of God, or a natural disaster or a political event, whatever the reason, one in seven thinks the end of the world is coming,” said Keren Gottfried, research manager at Ipsos Global Public Affairs which conducted the poll for Reuters.

“Perhaps it is because of the media attention coming from one interpretation of the Mayan prophecy that states the world ‘ends’ in our calendar year 2012,” Gottfried said, adding that some Mayan scholars have disputed the interpretation.

Source: Reuters

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: preparedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shtf; survivalping
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 05/03/2012 5:29:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I’ve talked to hundreds of preppers over the last two years and many people who like me try and provide guidance to those who prep or staring to and the one comment I hear the most is that they have a ‘feeling’. These people are from all social, education and financial backgrounds. They say that there are demonstrable statistic that show that the number of people missing airline flights that end up crashing is higher than the average number of people that miss flights. I know myself there have been times when I have putted around doing this and that in the morning, which is unusual for me only to leave and find that a big wreck has taken place along my route to work. I say listen to that little voice in the back of you head, because there’s a good chance it knows what its’ talking about.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


3 posted on 05/03/2012 5:39:56 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

ABC’S DIANE SAWYER included survivalists as terrorists when she began a story about the anarchist occupiers


4 posted on 05/03/2012 5:41:51 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: Kartographer
I don't think the world will end, but I'm fairly sure that before the end of the year, I'm going to need stored foods and tools and equipment. Just like last year, and the year before.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/03/2012 6:02:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

I have converted a few simply by asking them to turn off the ball game and DWTS and take a real good look around.

Look at how our society in the US is crumbling. God is being outright “killed”, the traditional family is dying, our government is overreaching daily, we are embroiled in foreign wars over oil, and inviting the very same people we are fighting to live amongst us. Those people live by a religious belief system that demands our enslavement or death.

We have turned our fine fighting forces into social experiment police forces, who CINC is almost certainly an imposter, brought up and foisted upon us by socialists, who dare us to say anything, and then call us racist if we do.

We have tens of thousands of anarchists in our streets daily, who want nothing more than to burn everything down.

We have MILLIONS of hypenated Americans who desire to be separate from the mainstream, and have for generations now, not worked nor do they desire to work.

I ask those that I speak to if they can actually see us continuing like we are? And just exactly who is going to lead us, the culturally fractured, into the promised land of peace and prosperity? There is no one presently who has the ability or the charisma to do so.

The answer is invariably that things are going to come apart. I then tell them they must prepare to survive the great fracturing.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 6:02:55 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now.)
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To: Kartographer

Is this like an internet infomercial?


7 posted on 05/03/2012 6:13:11 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: TexasSecede79366

If you think it is feel free to change the f’ing channel any time it suits you, noob.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 6:16:45 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Hard to prep without any money.


9 posted on 05/03/2012 6:18:15 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Kartographer

Several friends are saying they have that feeling but aren’t doing anything about it. Life is getting in their way. More than one has been talking about having a garden for years but there’s health issues, kids, jobs, family, etc. that they never get around to putting one in. I’m afraid it’s going to hit the fan one day soon and all these people will be scratching their heads wondering why they failed to act on that little voice.

My little voice has gone from whispering to yelling and bashing with baseball bats (yes, I’ve loosened the tin foil hat). I am far below where I want to be in preps 1) finances and 2) family who roll their eyes, but we’re dining on fresh homegrown beans, squash and salad tonight.


10 posted on 05/03/2012 6:27:31 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Lurker
Jeez guy? What's your problem? Without water you'll die quick.With out sustenance you'll die later.
Have we devolved to the point that we have some "guru" explain it to us?

A lot of free "snake eater" stuff is free of the inet.

11 posted on 05/03/2012 6:50:18 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: Kartographer
Am I a prepper? Yes, I am. Why? Simple. It's not because I'm afraid to die when TEOTWAWKI happens, it's because I'm afraid I'll survive.
12 posted on 05/03/2012 6:50:34 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: bicyclerepair
Hard to prep without any money.

Actually, the most important preps of all require little or no money.

Becoming more physically fit is as free as modifying eating and exercise habits. There is nothing more important to preparedness than health.

Gaining certain basic skills may be very low cost (e.g. welding).

Learning and planning are free. Knowledge is power!

13 posted on 05/03/2012 6:57:46 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: TexasSecede79366

Some folks around here really appreciate the work Kartographer and others have done on these threads. Even those of us who have been actively preparing for decades have learned a thing or two from them.

We all know about the “snake eater” manuals, pard. When you find the US Army Field Manual on home canning you be sure to post a link to it so we can all enjoy it.

Till then why don’t you save the snarky comments for someplace else.


14 posted on 05/03/2012 6:59:13 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker; TexasSecede79366

Some people are just bond and determined to make the Evening news by providing a background shot for some news achor by standing on a bridge somewhere waiting for FEMA to bring them a bottle of water, an MRE and a warm blanket.

You either prepare and stand on your own beholding to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become thier‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be herded in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Now I ask you what’s easier telling your children and loved ones why you prepared or explaining to them why you didn’t?


15 posted on 05/03/2012 6:59:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

bfl


16 posted on 05/03/2012 7:05:42 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: bicyclerepair
Hard to prep without any money.

It's surprisingly easy with just a little money. A 20 pound sack of rice has enough calories to feed one person for 16 days, and it costs about $10. Add in ten assorted cans of stuff to stir in (condensed soup, or similar) at about $1 a can on sale, and you can feed a family of four for a week on $20, and it stores for several years. Do the same thing with 20 pounds of spaghetti (another $20) and 20 cans of sauce (yet another $20), and you now have two weeks of food for a family of four at a total cost of $60. Similar bulk purchases of starch, canned chicken/Spam/tuna, and similar long-storage items when they are on sale can gradually stretch that emergency prep for a few weeks into an emergency prep that will last a long time. Two more details would be filling empty 2 liter soda bottles with tap water and a few drops of bleach each (details on line) and lining your basement/attic with them, so you have some emergency water, and having an ammo can stove that will burn almost anything flammable and boil water for the rice and pasta.

Most of my preps are cheap, and they actually save money because I'll buy 50 cans, packages, or pounds of whatever is on sale and then eat it over the course of a year, instead of buying the same things at full price when I actually want them. Extra ammunition isn't cheap, although a few boxes of .22 long rifle don't cost much and go a long way. Anyways, that's my thoughts. Your experience may be very different.

17 posted on 05/03/2012 7:32:50 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Kartographer

Excellent explanation on why to prepare. It doesn’t cost a lot if you do a little bit for a long time. Skills, such as sewing, canning, gardening, etc., will be extremely valuable in the future. There’s a wealth of free information on the internet for the taking. They can whine, gripe and mock now, but the latest prediction I heard was that 80% of the US population would not survive 18 months after an EMP attack (or financial crash, or other significant event).


18 posted on 05/03/2012 7:48:51 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Kartographer

Another thought ... FEMA camps ... think TSA or EPA mentality but a thousand times worse!


19 posted on 05/03/2012 7:52:37 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Pollster1

I started out broke 7 years ago after I got scammed buying a company.

Bought a good pump shotgun and a few boxes of shells at a pawn shop.

Bought a company in trouble where the liabilities exceeded the assets. It was cheap, but I was back in the game with my own company again.

Started eating a lot of beans and rice which I bought in 50 lb. bags at a restaurant supply.

Got a grain mill and buckets of grain from waltonfeed.com. Homemade bread with multi-grain flour is a meal by itself.

Learned how to cook food that I enjoy. Stopped wasting money eating at restaurants.

Started raising vegetables in buckets on my patio.

Each step saved enough money to finance the next step. Soon I will have everything paid off including my house.

Now that’s preppin!


20 posted on 05/03/2012 8:01:32 PM PDT by darth
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To: TexasSecede79366
Sod

Off.

/johnny

21 posted on 05/03/2012 8:19:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Lurker
Sometimes, a simple ESAD is the best response to newbs with 'tudes.

Too bad there isn't a PLONK button on FR.

/johnny

22 posted on 05/03/2012 8:21:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: darth
Learned how to cook food that I enjoy. Stopped wasting money eating at restaurants.

That is a big one. It is a substantial amount of money involved when eating out. Sometimes I wonder if people even know how to prepare food anymore.
23 posted on 05/03/2012 9:24:53 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer

Many don’t. Besides not getting it at home, do they even teach Home Ec in schools any more?


24 posted on 05/04/2012 4:17:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer
the one comment I hear the most is that they have a ‘feeling’

Definitely. There is a common sense of unease out there. And, depending on your faith and eschatology, you're going to attribute it to various things.

For some, it's the Mayan calendar thing, or planet X, or pandemic, or financial collapse, or the Tribulation.

25 posted on 05/04/2012 5:22:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: bicyclerepair
Harder, but not impossible.
google hits on prepping on a tight budget

Also, from your handle, you already have a HIGHLY barterable skill for "post-SHiFT".

26 posted on 05/04/2012 5:25:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: immadashell

Rev 12:12

woe to those who are left behind


27 posted on 05/04/2012 5:26:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: JRandomFreeper

ESAD?
PLONK?


28 posted on 05/04/2012 5:28:32 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: darth

Well done, you.


29 posted on 05/04/2012 5:29:03 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: darth

I like to get the packs of egg noodles and the various dried gravy packs.
Chicken Gravy, beef Gravy, Country Gravy, whatever - stores for years.

Toss in some fresh/canned veggies, home grown spices, rabbit or squirrel if you got it, you have a dam satisfying meal!

I must have 40 lbs egg noodles in storage and thats just egg noodles, not other types of pasta, tons of gravy packs, dried and powdered potatoes, various beans and rice, all that stuff can keep you alive and you can actually eat quite well!


30 posted on 05/04/2012 5:52:01 AM PDT by djf (Life's a play, we're actors not authors, and nobody even cared to give us the script!)
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To: bicyclerepair

You’ve got enough money.

$17 for 50 lbs rice or bread flour.
That, a water filter/purifier, and my tagline will get you well started.


31 posted on 05/04/2012 6:05:15 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: patton; JRandomFreeper
ESAD?

Ingest feces and pass away

PLONK?

You got me there! JRandomFreeper?

32 posted on 05/04/2012 1:15:31 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: Sarajevo

PLONK...all your future posts will be ignored.


33 posted on 05/04/2012 1:18:31 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Kartographer

What happened to post #1?


34 posted on 05/04/2012 1:21:15 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: wtc911
Someone remembers the old newsgroups and BBSs. Technically, that makes you older than dirt. ;)

/johnny

35 posted on 05/04/2012 1:21:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: darth
waltonfeed.com

Thanks for the link. I don't know how many useful sites I been introduced to by fellow FReepers.

36 posted on 05/04/2012 1:29:14 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My grand-kids call me “old days” which is older than “old school”...


37 posted on 05/04/2012 1:40:35 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911; Sarajevo; JRandomFreeper

Duh. Got it.

And I am older than dirt.


38 posted on 05/04/2012 1:51:41 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: Sarajevo; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

I have no idea. I just asked the moderator to explain.

Anyone remember what I could have possible posted that was offensive?


39 posted on 05/04/2012 1:53:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: wtc911
3.5 floppies are 'old school'. Sigh. I still have SSSD 128K 8" floppies with DBase and WordStar on them. My nephew calls my living room the 'museum exhibit of ancient technology'.

/johnny

40 posted on 05/04/2012 1:57:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Anyone remember what I could have possible posted that was offensive?

You didn't say something really offensive like "Christ is Lord" or something, did you?

41 posted on 05/04/2012 1:58:42 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer
I didn't notice anything.

/johnny

42 posted on 05/04/2012 1:59:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Got me! I didn’t see anything that was “offensive.”


43 posted on 05/04/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Sarajevo

I remember part of the post was about how there has be proven research that show’s that plane that crash have a higher precentage of people who miss the flaigh than planes that don’t that the little voice in the back of your head is something you should listen to. I also talked about my own experience of putting around in the morning when I should be leaving for work (which isn’t like me) and then finding that a major accident had occured somewhere on my route to work.


44 posted on 05/04/2012 2:00:24 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: MrB

For some, it’s the Mayan calendar thing, or planet X, or pandemic, or financial collapse, or the Tribulation.

Or, something as seemingly benign as LOSS OF INTERNET.

Think about it...

Preppers will survive.


45 posted on 05/04/2012 2:07:29 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: MrB; JRandomFreeper; Ladysmith

The most offense thing I posted all week was post #8 in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2879929/posts


46 posted on 05/04/2012 2:08:18 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Anyone remember what I could have possible posted that was offensive?

I don't recall anything.

47 posted on 05/04/2012 2:11:45 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Kartographer

This is all I found, with #1 removed:

Preppers: ‘Anywhere from Incredibly Practical to Practically Certifiable’
Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:29:57 PM · 2 of 46
Kartographer to appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!
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Sorry, I don’t specifically remember #1.


48 posted on 05/04/2012 2:15:09 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: immadashell
Am I a prepper? Yes, I am. Why? Simple. It's not because I'm afraid to die when TEOTWAWKI happens, it's because I'm afraid I'll survive.

Repeat
That needed Repeating!

49 posted on 05/04/2012 2:21:26 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Sarajevo; wtc911; patton; JRandomFreeper

Back in the mid-60s high school, “plonking” was a nice way of saying ‘screwing’, or the f-word. Maybe it’s got a new definition these days?


50 posted on 05/04/2012 2:39:53 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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