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Gary Johnson: finally a Libertarian who will actually help a Republican candidate
coachisright.com ^ | May1, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 05/01/2012 8:12:11 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

How many times have we seen a Republican lose a close race where a Libertarian candidate’s votes added to his/her total would have been the margin of victory? Many conservatives moan “If only the Libertarian wasn’t in the races, we’d win.”

That’s nonsense of course given that most Libertarians are basically sideways Democrats anyway. When they run their own candidates Libertarians usually take more Democrat votes than Republican votes.

Libertarians are no friends of Republicans, but this year things should be different. Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson’s presence in this year’s race has the potential to be a real plus in the battle to unseat Barack Obama.

Some Democrat voters might not like Obama but would have real problems voting for a Republican. Johnson solves their problem.

His positions make him attractive to Democrats but repulsive to all but the most ardent Mitt Romney haters – most of whom would likely stay home rather than vote for Johnson whom they will see as “Romney-lite.”

Since Johnson is pro-choice, highly thought of by the ACLU, wants to make serious cuts in Defense spending, supports Gay marriage, is for legalized marijuana and is quite soft on illegal aliens; disaffected Democrats can feel comfortable voting for him.

In doing so they can avoid voting for either a Republican or Barack Obama. A portion of rank and file Democrats of various voting blocs are not happy about having to vote for Barack Obama.

A small but growing percentage of Jewish Democrats are having second thoughts about voting for a man they have come to recognize as an enemy of Israel.

The 40% of union workers who don’t want to vote for Obama, but reflexively reject supporting a Republican can vote for Johnson.

“Johnson … more damage to Barack Obama….

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: garyjohnson
Johnson could be the exception that proves the rule.
1 posted on 05/01/2012 8:12:16 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

“Libertarians are no friends of Republicans....”

Unfortunately, these days Republicans are no friends of Libertarians.


2 posted on 05/01/2012 8:18:18 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: jmaroneps37

In ‘92, a lot of us thought that a guy who was pro-abort, wanted to raise the gasoline tax 50 cents per gallon, and was not exactly interested in decrerasing the scope of government would drain more votes from Clinton than George the Elder.

How wrong we were. SO MUCH of how many voters, especially independents, has to do with the projection of persona and demeanour. Ross Perot, with that General Store voice and military crew cut projected conservatism, even thugh he wasn’t conservative.


3 posted on 05/01/2012 8:21:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Libertarians are not “sideways Democrats.”


4 posted on 05/01/2012 8:37:12 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: jmaroneps37

As a New Mexican, I actually know Gary Johnson. As in, I’ve met him personally on a number of occassions.

Now, I don’t think I’d ever vote for the man, but I do think it is not quite right to say he is pro-abortion in a federal sort of way.

He opines the classic libertarian position that abortion is a state issue and should be returned to the States — i.e., that Roe v. Wade was wrong, which would be a huge win at the federal level.

Now, when pushed as to what he thinks states should do, he thinks states should legalize abortion, which is obviously bad, but irrelevant when it comes to someone running for federal office who holds libertarians ideas.

Anyway, NOT for Johnson. Just correcting the record a tad.

I do know I won’t vote for Romney, even against Obama. Probably vote Constitution Party.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 8:38:39 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Gary Johnston!


6 posted on 05/01/2012 8:47:01 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: jmaroneps37

I lived in New Mexico during both of Gary Johnson’s terms as governor of that state, and I think he did a great job. He left the state with a surplus of I don’t know how many millions of dollars, which the next governor (DEMOCRAT Bill Richardson) promptly pissed away.

His nickname was Governor Veto, since he did a lot of that (the NM statehouse is infested with Democrats, so most of the bills they sent him were irresponsible).


7 posted on 05/01/2012 8:47:36 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: TheThirdRuffian

[ He opines the classic libertarian position that abortion is a state issue and should be returned to the States — i.e., that Roe v. Wade was wrong, which would be a huge win at the federal level. ]

What would you rather have?

Supreme court stamping all over states rights via Roe v. Wade.

States decide the abortion issue themselves.

I would rather have the 2nd option.


8 posted on 05/01/2012 8:53:15 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: jmaroneps37

If Republicans would govern towards smaller government, less debt, less spending, and fewer regulations on personal activity, they wouldnt be losing votes to libertarians.


9 posted on 05/01/2012 8:56:34 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: GraceG
I'd be willing to bet that if an Amendment to the Constitution was made banning prophylactic abortion, Gary wouldn't have much problem with it.

Most libertarians are pretty "letter of the law" when it comes to the Constitution. Roe V Wade needs to go on this aspect alone.

My personal philosophy is that if it's human, killing it is murder. Regardless if it is still in someones uterus. I've brought a couple of quasi-pro-choice libertarians around by logic alone.

As for our military playing Globo-cop and Nation building... Since when has that EVER been their mandate?

End ALL entitlement and revamp welfare... Illegals would stop coming here to scam off the system. Also a very libertarian thing to do.

Meh... Normally Coach gets it right... This time? Not so much.

10 posted on 05/01/2012 9:08:42 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: VA_Gentleman

You are correct... libertarians are farther to the right in the political spectrum than conservatives are... they are more constitutionally based than conservatives are....they understand that more laws are not a good thing.... they believe morality should not be regulated, as it is subjective to whoever is in power at the time.... we see the dangers with the government, as do most of the conservatives.... there is a small fragment that have no problems forcing their view of morality upon everyone else... kinda like a democrat, but from the other side of the political spectrum.....


11 posted on 05/01/2012 9:48:42 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: joe fonebone

I could not have said it better myself.


12 posted on 05/01/2012 9:55:14 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: VA_Gentleman

ya know... sometimes I just simply amaze myself.. :)


13 posted on 05/01/2012 10:12:08 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: GraceG

“I would rather have the 2nd option.”

I concur, but once you get to the state level, he’s pro-abortion.

Ironically, he’s LESS harmful as he goes up in power.

He was a CHEAP dude, which I appreciated.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 10:12:32 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Coach, or whoever is responsible for this blog, goes far out of his way to trash libertarians.


15 posted on 05/01/2012 10:20:25 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Agreed. And I’m not sure who “Coach” is, but if his blog is so great, why is he constantly posting on Free Republic?


16 posted on 05/01/2012 10:38:54 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: VA_Gentleman; jmaroneps37

I have long theorized that many Hollywood types get confused over the Libertarian’s view of legal drugs, not anti-abortion, etc. with LIBERals. The weak minded hollywood people want legal drug and abortions, but don’t realize they should be supporting Libertarians, not people who are really control freak Democrats who label themselves “LIBERals” and “progressives” to confuse and trick people into voting for them.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 10:41:47 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: GSWarrior

I like a lot of libertarian ideas, but I am not a libertarian -— or at least not a “purest,” so a pot-smoker like Johnson would normally be on my “no way” list of voting.

Sadly, however, between big government liberal Romney and pot-smoker Johnson, Johnson is by far the more conservative.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 11:07:35 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: VA_Gentleman

“Since Johnson is pro-choice, highly thought of by the ACLU, wants to make serious cuts in Defense spending, supports Gay marriage, is for legalized marijuana and is quite soft on illegal aliens”
Which is the part that doesn’t look like it came from a Democrat?


19 posted on 05/01/2012 3:20:10 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

See post 11.


20 posted on 05/02/2012 7:37:11 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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