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Should the Free World develop in the Mexican or the Scandinavian direction?
04/14/2012 | WesternCulture

Posted on 04/13/2012 7:00:07 PM PDT by WesternCulture

The Mexican countryside is sunny, pleasant, full of stray dogs and in each corner of Russia, you'll find decaying houses containing a samovar.

But today, a nation like Mexico or Russia probably wouldn't last two months in a full out military confrontation with tiny Sweden (9.5 inhabitants).

But that isn't the real point here, although it is worth pointing out how pathetic nations like Mexico and Russia really are considering the fact they have an abundance of natural resources and border to two of the largest and most successful economies on Earth (USA and the EU).

America is presently being mismanaged under Obama, but the US could easily find a new track, provided it is given a competent leader elected by its populace. After all, America is one of the best functioning examples of true democracy the World has ever seen.

However, in extremely corrupt societies like Mexico and Greece, politicians don't strive to get elected by virtue or accomplishment and neither do they strive to do what is best for their respective nation. Their only concern is their Swiss bank account.

I am Swedish and raised in a completly different manner.

I never had a dad, uncle or grandfather who taught me the beauty of greeting the warm sun in the morning, going down to the beach, listening to the eternal wisdom of the sea and then going back home and enjoying Grandma's great cooking.

Instead I, already as a 7 year old child (especially during the summer holidays when there was no school), was taught the beauty of doing all sorts of hard labor (for at least 7-8 hours a day) by my family; looking after the houses I, my brother and cousins one day would inherit through and THEN, when the working day was done, enjoy Grandma's great food.

Self-discipline and self-esteem go very much in hand.

In countries like Greece, Italy etc, you're considered successful and smart among men of influence if you betray your business partners.

Among men like my paternal as well as my maternal grandfather and their business associates, you'd get your sorry *ss kicked out of their offices with that kind of attitude. For good.

In conclusion: The average Swede lives longer, drives a better car, owns a nicer home, has more of freedom as well as less of corruption in his way than the average Russian, Italian, Spaniard, Mexican or Greek.

For a reason.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: culture; education; greece; honor; italy; lutheranism; mexico; russia; scandinavia; spain; sweden; virtue; workethics

1 posted on 04/13/2012 7:00:13 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

>> tiny Sweden (9.5 inhabitants)

Wow, that IS tiny! Tell me about the half guy. Is he split horizontally or vertically?


2 posted on 04/13/2012 7:03:39 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: WesternCulture

“But today, a nation like Mexico or Russia probably wouldn’t last two months in a full out military confrontation with tiny Sweden (9.5 inhabitants).”

Oh, please. Tiny Sweden can’t even defeat its Muslim immigrants let alone Russia.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 7:09:24 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

you wrote, “After all, America is one of the best functioning examples of true democracy the World has ever seen.”

Its not a democracy. Its a REPUBLIC. We don’t want a democracy.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 7:11:59 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

you wrote, “After all, America is one of the best functioning examples of true democracy the World has ever seen.”

Its not a democracy. Its a REPUBLIC. We don’t want a democracy.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 7:12:05 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

Neither.

The “free world” should develop in the direction of the free market capitalism of 19th Century America.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 7:14:13 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: vladimir998

Stuff it Vlad. We want it all. Initiative and referendum bring everybody into play whether they want to be there or not.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 7:15:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: vladimir998

Stuff it Vlad. We want it all. Initiative and referendum bring everybody into play whether they want to be there or not.


8 posted on 04/13/2012 7:15:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WesternCulture

“After all, America is one of the best functioning examples of true democracy the World has ever seen.”

The United States of America is not and never was a democracy.

Democracy as a form of government was known by the Founders of the United States as one of the worse form of governments ever devised.

Democracy is rule of mob.
A Constitutional Republic is rule of law.

The United states is a Constitutional Republic.

Where people become confused is in thinking that popular democratic ELECTIONS is an image of democracy. What they don’t understand is that it is RULE OF LAW = REPUBLIC that ‘rules’. Elections elect people. Elections do not rule. People that are elected are subject to the Constitution. A Constitutional Republic ‘rules’. Elected officials are subordinate to the Constitution. We live UNDER a Constitutional Republic. That is what rules us.

The USA has had issues with elected officials and judiciary appointees ignoring the Constitution but by and large the Constitution is still the law of the land.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 7:15:59 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage

Yup, the last thing we need to do is Europeanize.


10 posted on 04/13/2012 7:25:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: vladimir998

Tiny Sweden may not want to defeat its Muslim occupants for the same reason that we here in the US slobber all over them.


11 posted on 04/13/2012 7:30:15 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: WesternCulture

I have often pondered if the most important verse in the Bible is “Let your yes be yes and your no be no.” It is no coincidence that all successful western cultures have an expectation of very direct and honest communication. You are alluding to integrity in your post. All great
societies are built on integrity. All commerce is built on trust.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 7:32:58 PM PDT by BRL
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To: muawiyah

We have a republic, not a democracy.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 7:39:41 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: WesternCulture

Mexico has some nice beaches.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 7:58:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Wow, that IS tiny! Tell me about the half guy. Is he split horizontally or vertically?”

- He’s half Danish.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 8:10:36 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Lol! I get your point about culture being ever so important to the success of a country.


16 posted on 04/13/2012 8:16:13 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: cripplecreek
“Yup, the last thing we need to do is Europeanize.”

- To begin with, America is, if not a product, yet a prolongation of Europe.

Could there, just perhaps, be a point of looking back instead of rushing on forward blindfolded in the dark?

We are one culture, Islam is another. They wish to conquer us, but are, for various historical, economic and ethnic reasons etc. divided by their unfathomable internal conflict.

If we really wish to survive, we should not become like them.

17 posted on 04/13/2012 8:23:57 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Amberdawn

“Lol! I get your point about culture being ever so important to the success of a country.”

- You actually do?

Many distinguished economists actually have claimed it was all due to luck a company like Volvo developed in Gothenburg (the city in which I live) and not in south east Madagascar.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 8:34:18 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: EyeGuy

“The “free world” should develop in the direction of the free market capitalism of 19th Century America.”

- Guess you’re talking about low corporate taxes, innovation and heavy investments paving the way for expansion, business success, hope for the future, growing prosperity and a sweet, lingering sense in the air of freedom for all.

There are two parts of the World that, today, really would fit that description; China and Scandinavia.

But in the case of China, forget upon the sweet smell of freedom.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 8:52:11 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

” The average Swede lives longer, drives a better car, owns a nicer home, has more of freedom as well as less of corruption in his way than the average Russian, Italian, Spaniard, Mexican or Greek.

For a reason.”

How does one say “Multikulti ist tot!” in Swedish?


20 posted on 04/13/2012 8:58:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: WesternCulture

MOST importantly I’m talking about a very small government overhead, a strong move away from the relentless trend toward Marxism.

Socialism may work reasonably well, for the highly civilized, law-abiding and industrious people of Scandinavia, but it is anathema to the individual accountability and self-reliance that built America. The built-in injustices of socialism are becoming particularly apparent as the expanding class of entitlement parasites continues to weigh on our society.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 9:16:55 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: WesternCulture
Should the Free World develop in the Mexican or the Scandinavian direction?

I say Scandinavian...they have better furniture :>)

22 posted on 04/13/2012 9:24:55 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: WesternCulture

I say neither.

We’re already hating being under socialism. That knocks out Sweden. And if we go the way of Mexico, half of us will migrate up to Canada. And we’ve got the socialist problem there again.


23 posted on 04/13/2012 9:31:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GladesGuru

“How does one say “Multikulti ist tot!” in Swedish?”

- There are, in fact, two ways:

1. “Multikulturalismen är död”

2. Free the proud city of Malmö from biker gangs, Russian mafia and Jihadist slums by using this resource:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFFNkOw8OkY


24 posted on 04/13/2012 9:32:13 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

God help us when the university educated meet political correctness.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 10:13:53 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: WesternCulture

“True democracy”?


26 posted on 04/14/2012 2:40:07 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: WesternCulture

Mexico clearly wins in my book.

They have a voter ID system that is LIGHT YEARS beyond what even gets discussed in the US. Their southern border is practically sealed, and the ones that get through illegally are hunted down. And they send their dregs up north.

Scandinavia, on the other hand, feels like they have to be home to every so-called refugee that comes knocking, and then they give them a free ride and free mosques so that they can plot the overthrow of their country. They also have mass murderers that kill children by the dozen (something Mexico doesn’t have - although they have the drug wars in the North).

I suspect in 20 years, Mexico will look a better than Scandinavia - and definitely in 50 years, as the demographics flip in those countries.


27 posted on 04/14/2012 4:59:23 AM PDT by BobL
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To: vladimir998

It’s all stuffed in there. BTW, working on a prayer request this morning. Young man sent one to Salvation ~ always worth the comments ~ everybody was very nice to me back almost two years ago ~ so check out http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2871893/posts ~ see if you can help.


28 posted on 04/14/2012 5:30:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BobL

As a delusioned Scandinavian nationalist WesternCulture won’t get your idea. I also find it ridiculous his words of both “Mexico and Russia won’t stand two months of confrontation against Sweden”. A tiny fraction of either nation’s armed forces will have Swedish socialist pot smokers in a week in any possible way.


29 posted on 04/15/2012 5:49:53 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

“As a delusioned Scandinavian nationalist WesternCulture won’t get your idea. I also find it ridiculous his words of both “Mexico and Russia won’t stand two months of confrontation against Sweden”. A tiny fraction of either nation’s armed forces will have Swedish socialist pot smokers in a week in any possible way.”

- I sure get YOUR idea. We Scandinavians (except for some people in drugged up Christiania, Copenhagen perhaps) do NOT smoke pot and are far from being delusioned.

Our corner of the World has testosterone. Your has eternal siesta.


30 posted on 04/15/2012 3:11:30 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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