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George Zimmerman to be Charged: Will This Divide the American People?
La Gente Dice ^ | April 11, 2012 | Mikel Alger

Posted on 04/11/2012 1:25:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

George Zimmerman has a long road ahead to prove that he acted in self defense when he killed a black teenager, but people are failing to look at the big picture in this case: It involves every American in one way or another. No one in the entire country cannot relate to this case in some form, and that is why it has been such an explosive part of the news in the past few weeks.

Many will say that Trayvon was killed simply because he is black, and a large amount of people will agree with that because of the topic of hate crimes in the past few years. If someone goes out and kills someone solely because of race, nationality or sexual orientation, then it can be considered a hate crime. However, every time someone from one race kills another, people cannot and should not simply slap on the hate crime label. All that does is further separate the American people. A life was lost; it doesn't matter if that life was taken from a black, white, pink, purple or blue body. Life is life and no one should lose theirs at seventeen.

Gun supporters will use this case to show the "dangers" of the country and use this self defense argument as part of their crusade on people's rights to carry weapons. They will show that teenagers do not think correctly and older people should have the right to defend themselves from intruders, which is what many people have painted Trayvon as.

Either way, both sides are going back and forth about who is to blame in this case. The media has painted Trayvon as an innocent student who was killed by a crazy man with a gun. However, people have fought back in past weeks; pulling up negative information and pictures of Trayvon to show that no one is completely innocent and that people need to look at both sides of the story before judging.

The main point is that people shouldn't necessarily treat this as a hate crime until some concrete information comes out saying that Mr. Zimmerman did in fact kill Trayvon because of the color of his skin. Supporters of the teenager should also choose better people to represent them because Al Sharpton's input will only further divide people.

What do you think? Should George Zimmerman be charged? Does the United States have a problem of racial divide? Leave your comments.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 04/11/2012 1:26:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The American experiment succeeded because were were a nation of laws, not men.

Now we are now a nation of mob law.

The end is nigh, and it will be bloody.

2 posted on 04/11/2012 1:28:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is going to divide the White Hispanic community.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 1:28:23 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The country is already divided between leftists and everybody else. And it’s not going to work. I’m afraid something’s going to give.


4 posted on 04/11/2012 1:29:51 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've thought for years that the USA is headed for a civil war. A fighting war between conservatives and liberals.
5 posted on 04/11/2012 1:30:29 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are already divided. This won’t do much.


6 posted on 04/11/2012 1:31:40 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The great ‘uniter’ Obama and his minions have ensured the last three years that our country is completely divided by design. So there will be no difference no matter what Zimmerman is railroaded into, it will never be enough for the race pimps and the libs.


7 posted on 04/11/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“George Zimmerman has a long road ahead to prove that he acted in self defense...”

Remember when the burden of proof used to be the other way ‘round?


8 posted on 04/11/2012 1:32:55 PM PDT by whatexit
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To: Coldwater Creek

Good! I say BRING IT ON..I am so sick of these far left douche bags wanting to destroy my country. We can beat them EASILY, time to take this country back!


9 posted on 04/11/2012 1:33:44 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In some dark cell, Charles Manson is smiling!

This Florida DA is a coward, just kicked the can down the road for a jury to find Zimmerman NOT GUILTY!

10 posted on 04/11/2012 1:33:59 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Photobucket Time for the 2nd revolution
11 posted on 04/11/2012 1:36:49 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: RIghtwardHo

There is not a lot we know about what actually happened.
What we do know is that the President, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and militant groups have used the incident as a political tool. Hopefully both Democrats and Republicans of character will see this sideshow for the disgrace that it is.


12 posted on 04/11/2012 1:39:07 PM PDT by paguch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Zimmerman has a long road ahead to prove that he acted in self defense when he killed a black teenager.

This is not true. The state has to prove that he did not act in self defense.

13 posted on 04/11/2012 1:40:42 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: whatexit

>>Remember when the burden of proof used to be the other way ‘round?

Oh, that’s fine for black-on-black or black-on-white violence, but once Jesse and Al get involved, the burden of proof is always on Whitey.


14 posted on 04/11/2012 1:41:01 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: paguch

>>Hopefully both Democrats and Republicans of character will see this sideshow for the disgrace that it is.

You’re not looking for a Republicrat politician with character, are you?

They live in a secret lair with Big Foot and Nessie!


15 posted on 04/11/2012 1:43:17 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Black Panther Party put out a bounty on a Jewish Hispanic Democrat yet the left is silent. Interesting.


16 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:07 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Zimmerman has a long road ahead to prove that he acted in self defense when he killed a black teenager ...

Zimmerman has to prove his innocence?

A good chunk of this nation is already divided. That includes me. If the rule of law is lost to a bunch of race-baiting morons, then the people on my side od the divide are going to be not so friendly.

Ever so slightly off topic, I'm doing an M4forgery build ... 16" middie. Anyone have a recommendation on an upper receiver group? My budget for the upper is around $800.

17 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:21 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Zimmerman has a long road ahead to prove that he acted in self defense when he killed a black teenager ...

Zimmerman has to prove his innocence?

A good chunk of this nation is already divided. That includes me. If the rule of law is lost to a bunch of race-baiting morons, then the people on my side od the divide are going to be not so friendly.

Ever so slightly off topic, I'm doing an M4forgery build ... 16" middie. Anyone have a recommendation on an upper receiver group? My budget for the upper is around $800.

18 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:26 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Welcome to Reverend Eric Holder Wright’s America, where if you are a non black person you are not allowed to defend yourself against a black person trying to kill you.


19 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:36 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (whites are 8 times more likely to be victimized by black criminals than blacks by white criminals)
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20 posted on 04/11/2012 1:44:51 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Bryanw92

Look at which party is constantly caught in outright lies, starting with the President.


21 posted on 04/11/2012 1:46:03 PM PDT by paguch
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To: RIghtwardHo

Crap like this is bringing us closer to CW2 IMHO.


22 posted on 04/11/2012 1:46:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: GingisK

Amen! That’s what makes (made?) the USA different from all other countries. Presumption of Innocence


23 posted on 04/11/2012 1:47:13 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like George Zimmerman will be tried on some variant of “Manslaughter”.

He will likely be found Not Guilty.

The Feds will then charge him with violating little Trayvon’s civil rights.

He will be found Guilty on that one.

Same as the Rodney King situation.


24 posted on 04/11/2012 1:48:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“We are already divided. This won’t do much.”

What it will do is make the “divisions” impossible to ignore any longer.

It will empower those on one side of the divide to say things that they haven’t been permitted to say for about five decades. We are seeing evidence of that in this forum, right now.

There will be no way to sweep the divide under the rug afterwards....


25 posted on 04/11/2012 1:51:18 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: All

This is gonna come back to bite the Dems in the azz.
They have now shown the face of their party to be an angry black man with an entitlement mentality.


26 posted on 04/11/2012 1:51:46 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: paguch

>>Look at which party is constantly caught in outright lies, starting with the President.

Sorry, forgot to properly capitalize RepubliCrat. Reagan is dead. Neither party is the friend of the free American or the truth.


27 posted on 04/11/2012 1:53:42 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Divide a nation?

I think of my own circumstances. In my life, I do not recall ever being so aware of race and religion in others, or thinking about it for that matter.

Back when Colin Powel still seemed like a righteous guy, I thought I would support him for president (long long ago). Someone pointed out that he would be the first black president if that came to pass. Until that very moment, I had never considered his being “black” a factor in what I thought of his qualifications for president.

Today? I’m not so color blind or blind to what the Muslim Faith is about either. I don’t know if I’m getting older and meaner or what, but I feel less “open minded” in these past few years as I have been attacked as a “rich, white guy” that has to pay more in the interest of fairness by politicians. Rich? Not hardly by any middle class standard. I feel like I have been painted as the perpetrator of hardship on an ever increasing expanse of victims.

Yea, I am tiring of the labels and class warfare, race baiting, christian bashing....

What might a psychologist suggest is the source of my creeping antimosity?


28 posted on 04/11/2012 1:53:42 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it will - because the president is doing everything he can TO divide the country racially.


29 posted on 04/11/2012 1:54:21 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whip-up a black lynch mob against a Hispanic dude; what a way to court that Hispanic vote, Barry.


30 posted on 04/11/2012 1:56:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I disagree, it will make the divide worse. This is clearly a case of overbearing leftists telling us we can’t defend ourselves or our families. And the result will probably be more violence by black youths.

Let’s make it clear: we will defend ourselves. It doesn’t matter what the outcome of this case is.


31 posted on 04/11/2012 1:56:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George is a 'dead man walking'. The special prosecutor knew if she didn't charge him, T-H-E-Y would burn down South Florida. But, when the trial starts, they will do like T-H-E-Y did with O.J. and Rodney King.... not to convict or we will burn down L.A. Except this time it will be CONVICT or we will burn down the whole state of Florida. If he goes to jail or prison, T-H-E-Y will get him from within....the ole SHIVE-IN-THE-RIBS thing and the cops will not charge anyone because T-H-E-Y will, again, be afraid T-H-E-Y will burn everything down.

obama, holder and the rest of the "T-H-E-Y's will continue to NOT condemn the Panthers but praise sharpton.

Betcha je$$e jackson is seething that he wasn't invited to share the stage with holder and sharpton. He's no doubt saying to acquaintance's (I would say 'friends', but I doubt if he has any) that sharpton and holder should "have his balls cut off" like he said about obama. Wonder where La Raca is? Guess he doesn't look latino enough for the T.V. news.

32 posted on 04/11/2012 1:57:49 PM PDT by jmax
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To: Tenacious 1
What might a psychologist suggest is the source of my creeping antimosity?

Improved situational awareness?

33 posted on 04/11/2012 1:59:05 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Tenacious 1

You suffer from too many years of dealing with liberals and leftists. We all are.


34 posted on 04/11/2012 1:59:14 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Al Sharpton was one of those, along with Jesse Jackson, who turned this story into a national obsession. Eric Holder went to a meeting of Sharpton’s organization and praised him.


35 posted on 04/11/2012 1:59:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Tenacious 1

“What might a psychologist suggest is the source of my creeping antimosity?”

Open eyes?


36 posted on 04/11/2012 2:00:18 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When is the autopsy report on Trayvon Martin going to be released?


37 posted on 04/11/2012 2:02:24 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: DuncanWaring
We need to make this prosecutor the next Mike Nifong if she does ANYTHING even remotely unethical. IMO, she has already acted unethically and politically motivated.

In fact we could start contacting the State BAR Assoc. right now as it appears they don't have anything to arrest this man on other than completely fabricated and conspiratorial news stories.

Under these circumstances just not referring this case to a Grand Jury shows unethical prejudice on her part. The only reason for not going to a Grand Jury is she knows they don't even have cause to arrest this man, let alone prosecute him.

38 posted on 04/11/2012 2:03:13 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One hundred and fifty one years ago thousands of white people died freeing blacks from slavery, now the black people (apparently they could care less about history) want to kill white people.

What rights do we whites have that they don’t have? None. They hate whites because we for the most part abide by the laws of the land, laws they do not respect, they call them white mans laws. They want to change that and obama wants to help them do it.

They have been desperate to find an excuse to kill white people because of trumped up race charges and hatred fed on jealousy and their own failures. obamas has been building his army for over three years and he will use them to create more racial hatred. He wants to be king and will use anyone and do anything to stay in the WH.

This is not going to end well.


39 posted on 04/11/2012 2:04:33 PM PDT by mardi59 ( Go Newt!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Martin most likely got killed because he was a lousy little gangbanger with a chip on his shoulder.


40 posted on 04/11/2012 2:05:41 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will This Divide the American People?

No.

41 posted on 04/11/2012 2:06:22 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ConservativeInPA
If the rule of law is lost to a bunch of race-baiting morons,

If. You say if?

I am disgusted by the behavior of the politicians in this country. I am disgusted by the behavior and policies of our Department of Justice.

We are no better than a third world country. In some ways we are worse.

42 posted on 04/11/2012 2:09:08 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Depends on the charges vs the evidence.
We’ll see.


43 posted on 04/11/2012 2:11:07 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should George Zimmerman be charged?

I don't know. I am not privy to the facts.

Does the United States have a problem of racial divide?

It does, but not as severe as many on the right and the left seem to want us to believe.

Most people, IMO, are prone to believe that Martin was not out looking for trouble; that Martin was not killed because he was black; that Zimmerman is not a cold-blooded killer of blacks.

The race baiters on the left and right would have us believe otherwise.

44 posted on 04/11/2012 2:14:02 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Good! I say BRING IT ON..I am so sick of these far left douche bags wanting to destroy my country. We can beat them EASILY, time to take this country back!

I'm ready also but this nation is still a long way from a battle. The PTB know how to destroy inch by inch & then one day it's all over. The passive sheeple have been corralled with no one to defend them. If ya'll think that it can't get worse just watch.

45 posted on 04/11/2012 2:15:08 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: jmax

The New Black Panther Party has basically been given a Letter of Marque and Reprisal by this administration.


46 posted on 04/11/2012 2:18:17 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: ConservativeInPA
I have a suggestion for an upper, two AK's. :D I crack myself up

Ever so slightly off topic, I'm doing an M4forgery build ... 16" middie. Anyone have a recommendation on an upper receiver group? My budget for the upper is around $800.
47 posted on 04/11/2012 2:26:28 PM PDT by refreshed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

divide and conquer is what obama wants


48 posted on 04/11/2012 2:27:25 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: jmax
The black male homicide rate from 1999 to 2007 of 41.4 was ELEVEN TIMES the white homicide rate of 3.7. For males aged 20 to 24, the astonishing black male homicide rate of 109.4 is an SEVENTEEN TIMES the white male homicide rate of just 6.3. Also relevant is that 93% of black homicides are committed by other black people. These are the FACTS.

The TRUTH is that collectively black males are more violent, more murderous, more dangerous than white, Asian, hispanic, or native American males. The TRUTH is that for every black male killed by a non-black male, THIRTEEN are killed by a black male. The TRUTH is that black males are their own worst enemy.

Source: CDC Homicides — United States, 1999–2007

49 posted on 04/11/2012 2:45:06 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Now we are now a nation of mob law.

We are a nation where the rule of politics trumps the rule of law.

The politically well-connected are never charged. Why hasn't Jon Corzine been charged under Sarbanes-Oxley laws?

-PJ

50 posted on 04/11/2012 2:49:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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