[Liar] Rossi Tells Florida Bureau He Has No U.S. Factory, No Nuclear Reactions

Pure Energy Systems ^ | 3/11/2012 | Sterling D. Allan

[Johnny B.]

Rossi has been caught in some whopper lies.

Yesterday, the New Energy Times published an extremely damning report regarding Andrea Rossi and his E-Cat:

Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the Energy Catalyzer, told an inspector from the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control that he has no factory in the United States and that no nuclear reactions occur in his devices.

Rossi's statements contradict nearly everything he has said in the last year about his claims of a factory and his development of a low-energy nuclear reaction device.

[Kevmo]

Johnny B apologizes to the ping list without pinging the list that he pinged in the first place. Reminds me of when Danae apologized to All without knowing that pinging All is not pinging All.

To: Admin Moderator
FYI, this is the first time anyone has objected to me pinging the LENR/Cold Fusion group (using the list Kevmo maintains on the profile page).
I will be happy to leave Kevmo off the ping list (even though he is managing it). I will also be happy to leave off anyone else who doesn’t wish to be pinged by someone other than Kevmo.

And, if it’s a violation of the rules, I apologize to the ping list, and will refrain from doing so again.

22 posted on Sunday, March 11, 2012 2:25:01 PM by Johnny B.
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So, you want to control which LENR stories the people on the LENR ping list get to read.
***It’s my ping list. I choose not to ping them to seagull threads like yours. What you are doing is classic troll-stalking-picking a fight behavior and traditionally the mods don’t put up with it.

The reason they join the ping list is so they don’t have to go hunting for the articles that interest them.
***And yet, even one of the guys on the ping list who echoed that sentiment, DangerDoc, has said that he doesn’t engage in these threads. That’s because of the pollution of these threads by guys like Johnny B, whom the mods officially label as a troll in the “Don’t Post to me” thread. Basically as far as I can tell, every single person who has dropped out from my ping list was because of these guys and their antics. They have poisoned the well.

However, although you’ve been happy to flood FR with every silly little boast and brag from Rossi, you seemed to leave out all the negative stories.
***That is not true at all. For instance, I posted the thread inviting everyone to prove Rossi is a fraud.

That’s hardly fair to the ping list.
***Feel free to start your own ping list. It is difficult to believe the admin mods have allowed you to get away with this behavior. You even felt the need to apologize to the admin mod. It is your behavior that is under scrutiny here for pinging Freepers on someone else’s list and picking a fight.

Since you used to pimp Rossi as a good investment
***Fallacious reasoning. I never pimped Rossi, never as a “good investment” other than wishing I could invest in it myself but he doesn’t take our money.

here on FR, it’s also fraudulent, and possibly illegal behavior.
***Note the grammar change of past tense into present tense. “Since you used to”... melting into “it IS also”. So much of what you represent is a lie that you make me sick. If what I did in the past was illegal or fraudulent then take it up on those threads.

As Moomman62 stated, the proper way to ignore someone is to actually ignore them.
***I do, eventually. But for the sake of lurkers who will follow a thread, they’ll see that someone posted some kind of objection and then they’ll see no responses and they’ll draw the wrong conclusion that there is no answer to what is being postulated. This is how trolls poison the well. So if the lurkers see the response that the troll is being ignored, the lurker is free to take up whatever is being postulated and have it discussed, rationally.

I will feel free to reply to any message you post to me, even the silly, childish “I’m ignoring you” messages. If you don’t want me to respond, don’t send me messages.
***You need to read what the moderators say about that kind of behavior. Posting to someone after they have asked you not to post to them is considered trolling, and unconservative.
“Do not post to me” Free Republic ^ | 8/28/07 | Admin Moderator Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:47:37 PM by Admin Moderator http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1888013/posts
Final note: Trolls, troublemakers, disruptors, forum pests, malcontents, RINOs, liberals, stalkers, et al, would continue posting to (harassing) someone after being asked to stop. Conservative FReepers would not.

Oh, and grow up. Your temper-trantum is very unbecoming.
***We will now return to my regularly scheduled ‘ignore’ post for Johnny B.

[Johnny B.]

Johnny B apologizes to the ping list without pinging the list that he pinged in the first place. Reminds me of when Danae apologized to All without knowing that pinging All is not pinging All.

So, Kevmo complains when I ping the list. Then he complains when I don't ping the list.

And, meanwhile, he's spamming the list like crazy with duplicate posts.

Thanks for demonstrating your childish, irrational and petulant behavior to everyone.

[Kevmo]

Like I said,

We will now return to my regularly scheduled ‘ignore’ post for Johnny B.

• Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Johnny B.
This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. You’ve proven you’re just here to harass; you have demonstrated that you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2832338/posts?page=51#51

[Johnny B.]

Yup, Kevmo is too stupid to figure out how to ignore someone.

[Lx]

Let me get this straight. You respond on this thread, you get taken to the woodshed for your incessant spamming on Rossi's behalf (it used to be a daily occurrence) then, you post your 'standard ignore' post to a couple of posters and now you expect to be allowed to post your B.S without people responding to you, is that a correct summation?

I think you're on the wrong board or you don't understand how this one works.

Doesn't your hero, Sterling Allan have a place where you can drink the koolaid all day?

Finally, I wouldn't use words here that you don't have the guts to say to the poster's face.

[Admin Moderator]

Quit Pinging Us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Moonman62]

He’s doing it for his imaginary friends, the lurkers. It goes beyond stupidity.

[Triple]

I would like to know your take on this story.

Is there a reasonable explanation for the seemingly inconsistent statements by Rossi coming soon?

-Or-

Are you off the Rossi/E-cat bandwagon in the face of yet another straw of con-man behavior?

Is there a possible 3rd choice?

[Johnny B.]

Doesn't your hero, Sterling Allan have a place where you can drink the koolaid all day?

You need to take a closer look at the story I posted.

Even Sterling Allan has given up on Rossi due to his many lies!

[Lx]

Look at my post #16.

[allmendream]

[Johnny B.]

Look at my post #16.

Sorry, my Sarcasm-o-meter seems to be on the blink today.

[allmendream]

You are experiencing Sarchasm.

That is the gap (or chasm) between the person being sarcastic and the person who thinks they are serious.

Sarchasm.

;)

[Lx]

I think the fact that people still believe in Rossi, would break anyone's sarcasm-o-meter; not to mention your belief-o-meter and your sympathy-o-meter which these unfortunate believers need after they're forced to concede that Rossi is a scammer.

[Kevmo]

I would like to know your take on this story. ***Ok, but when the seagull brigade chimes in, don't expect me to address anything they say. They'll get the same 'ignore button' posts as usual, so that no crickets are generated. Is there a reasonable explanation for the seemingly inconsistent statements by Rossi coming soon? ***The first place I look is on Vortex-L. For instance: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg64163.html --------------------------------------------------------- Re: [Vo]:Krivit- Florida and Rossi-- Hmmmmmm OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:09:02 -0700 >> I think that this hasn t been posted yet: >> http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2012/03/12/trouble-for-andrea-rossi-and-his-e-cat/ > > Also posted here: > > http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Critics-Attempt-to-Damage-Rossis-E-Cat-with-Unfounded-Complaints.html > > http://tinyurl.com/7ln7n9o I was amused by one of the concluding remarks made by the writer, Brian Westenhaus, of OilPrice.com: ... > So here’s what you humble writer is thinking: This isn’t a > story about Andrea Rossi and the E-Cat. It’s a story about > Gary Wright, Steven Krivit, a bunch of follow along bloggers > and readers. There isn’t any E-Cat news. ---------------------------------------------------- If you're looking for reasonable explanations from Rossi, you'll be waiting a long time. Basically, the most inductively sensible explanation is that Rossi has a very compelling technology. He's developing it and it is likely to go into production in the next 2 years. It's even been stolen by one of his former partners, Defkalion. But Rossi is Rossi. He is incredibly dislikeable, inspiring his partners to steal from him rather than edify alongside. So... Rossi being Rossi, he seems to be playing this game where he makes exaggerated claims just enough for the usual skeptopaths to think he's a scam. That way he doesn't draw much attention from huge competitors like GE or Hitachi. But this ridiculous plan of his backfires when it draws the attention of authorities. Now, Rossi being Rossi, he's had some very negative experiences with authorities who are in the back pocket of a competitor, so he basically stepped in it right here. Rossi probably lied to the investigator. It is fascinating to see where the line gets drawn: All the materials used in LENR are non-nuclear, and they generate no long-living nuclear byproducts, so you could easily say that to an investigator and send him on his way. Note that all along I've been saying that this would be a good thing if the whole deal was chemical rather than nuclear, because then the NRC wouldn't be involved. So, here's Rossi's take: RE: [Vo]:Florida Investigates Rossi Alan J Fletcher Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:36:00 -0700 Claud March 11th, 2012 at 3:21 PM Dear Andrea can you please give us your version of the Florida Bureau inspection referred on some site ? Thank you and good afternoon. C.R. Andrea Rossi March 11th, 2012 at 3:35 PM Dear Claud: There is not “my version” , there is only one version of the Florida Bureau inspection at Leonardo Corporation, as a matter of fact it is the version derived from the actual facts: We have been very glad to receive their visit and we have explained to them all we had to. We agreed with them that we will keep them informed of all our developments and also explained to them that we do not use radioactive materials and do not produce radioactive materials. The persons we talked with are very prepared and expert, they have been right and correct, and I have been honoured to deal with them. What we said beyond this is confidential and I have nothing to add at all. I give no information at all regarding our factory, as I always said, until our production will be officially announced. I can say, and I am delighted to say this, that the Officers of the Florida State I have been contacted from are glad that we are making jobs in Florida with a company that respects the Law. Of course they will have free access to us in our Florida site, also to verify that we do not use radioactive material and we do not produce radioactive material and, also , we agreed that we will not sell in the USA the domestic E-Cats before the due certification, that will certify that no radiations are emitted from the E-Cats outside the body of the E-Cats while they are working. Warm Regards, A.R. -Or- Are you off the Rossi/E-cat bandwagon in the face of yet another straw of con-man behavior? ***Your statement assumes I was on the Ecat bandwagon. Please note that I was posting LENR articles before Rossi showed up and I'll be posting LENR articles after Rossi goes away, whether he turns out to be a fraud or a brooding genius like Thomas Edison. But to address your question, yes, my scam-o-meter has been going back towards scam. Basically at 50% scam-o-meter you can't decide, and to the left is red [SCAM] and to the right is green [goodbye oil dependency], I'm at about 65% green for Rossi and 99% green for LENR. My Rossi scam-o-meter keeps inching back towards the red. Is there a possible 3rd choice? ***I don't know. There probably is.

[Kevmo]

•
I would like to know your take on this story.
• ***Ok, but when the seagull brigade chimes in, don't expect me to address anything they say. They'll get the same 'ignore button' posts as usual, so that no crickets are generated.

Is there a reasonable explanation for the seemingly inconsistent statements by Rossi coming soon?
***The first place I look is on Vortex-L.
> So here’s what you humble writer is thinking: This isn’t a > story about Andrea Rossi and the E-Cat. It’s a story about > Gary Wright, Steven Krivit, a bunch of follow along bloggers > and readers. There isn’t any E-Cat news.
----------------------------------------------------

If you're looking for reasonable explanations from Rossi, you'll be waiting a long time. Basically, the most inductively sensible explanation is that Rossi has a very compelling technology. He's developing it and it is likely to go into production in the next 2 years. It's even been stolen by one of his former partners, Defkalion. But Rossi is Rossi. He is incredibly dislikeable, inspiring his partners to steal from him rather than edify alongside.

So... Rossi being Rossi, he seems to be playing this game where he makes exaggerated claims just enough for the usual skeptopaths to think he's a scam. That way he doesn't draw much attention from huge competitors like GE or Hitachi. But this ridiculous plan of his backfires when it draws the attention of authorities. Now, Rossi being Rossi, he's had some very negative experiences with authorities who are in the back pocket of a competitor, so he basically stepped in it right here.

Rossi probably lied to the investigator. It is fascinating to see where the line gets drawn: All the materials used in LENR are non-nuclear, and they generate no long-living nuclear byproducts, so you could easily say that to an investigator and send him on his way. Note that all along I've been saying that this would be a good thing if the whole deal was chemical rather than nuclear, because then the NRC wouldn't be involved.

So, here's Rossi's take: RE: [Vo]:Florida Investigates Rossi Alan J Fletcher Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:36:00 -0700

Claud March 11th, 2012 at 3:21 PM Dear Andrea can you please give us your version of the Florida Bureau inspection referred on some site ? Thank you and good afternoon. C.R. Andrea Rossi March 11th, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Dear Claud: There is not “my version” , there is only one version of the Florida Bureau inspection at Leonardo Corporation, as a matter of fact it is the version derived from the actual facts: We have been very glad to receive their visit and we have explained to them all we had to. We agreed with them that we will keep them informed of all our developments and also explained to them that we do not use radioactive materials and do not produce radioactive materials. The persons we talked with are very prepared and expert, they have been right and correct, and I have been honoured to deal with them. What we said beyond this is confidential and I have nothing to add at all. I give no information at all regarding our factory, as I always said, until our production will be officially announced. I can say, and I am delighted to say this, that the Officers of the Florida State I have been contacted from are glad that we are making jobs in Florida with a company that respects the Law. Of course they will have free access to us in our Florida site, also to verify that we do not use radioactive material and we do not produce radioactive material and, also , we agreed that we will not sell in the USA the domestic E-Cats before the due certification, that will certify that no radiations are emitted from the E-Cats outside the body of the E-Cats while they are working. Warm Regards, A.R.


-Or-
Are you off the Rossi/E-cat bandwagon in the face of yet another straw of con-man behavior?
***Your statement assumes I was on the Ecat bandwagon. Please note that I was posting LENR articles before Rossi showed up and I'll be posting LENR articles after Rossi goes away, whether he turns out to be a fraud or a brooding genius like Thomas Edison. But to address your question, yes, my scam-o-meter has been going back towards scam. Basically at 50% scam-o-meter you can't decide, and to the left is red [SCAM] and to the right is green [goodbye oil dependency], I'm at about 65% green for Rossi and 99% green for LENR. My Rossi scam-o-meter keeps inching back towards the red.


Is there a possible 3rd choice? ***I don't know. There probably is.

[Kevmo]

•
I would like to know your take on this story.
• ***Ok, but when the seagull brigade chimes in, don't expect me to address anything they say. They'll get the same 'ignore button' posts as usual, so that no crickets are generated.

Is there a reasonable explanation for the seemingly inconsistent statements by Rossi coming soon?
***The first place I look is on Vortex-L.
> So here’s what you humble writer is thinking: This isn’t a > story about Andrea Rossi and the E-Cat. It’s a story about > Gary Wright, Steven Krivit, a bunch of follow along bloggers > and readers. There isn’t any E-Cat news.
----------------------------------------------------

If you're looking for reasonable explanations from Rossi, you'll be waiting a long time. Basically, the most inductively sensible explanation is that Rossi has a very compelling technology. He's developing it and it is likely to go into production in the next 2 years. It's even been stolen by one of his former partners, Defkalion. But Rossi is Rossi. He is incredibly dislikeable, inspiring his partners to steal from him rather than edify alongside.

So... Rossi being Rossi, he seems to be playing this game where he makes exaggerated claims just enough for the usual skeptopaths to think he's a scam. That way he doesn't draw much attention from huge competitors like GE or Hitachi. But this ridiculous plan of his backfires when it draws the attention of authorities. Now, Rossi being Rossi, he's had some very negative experiences with authorities who are in the back pocket of a competitor, so he basically stepped in it right here.

Rossi probably lied to the investigator. It is fascinating to see where the line gets drawn: All the materials used in LENR are non-nuclear, and they generate no long-living nuclear byproducts, so you could easily say that to an investigator and send him on his way. Note that all along I've been saying that this would be a good thing if the whole deal was chemical rather than nuclear, because then the NRC wouldn't be involved.

So, here's Rossi's take: RE: [Vo]:Florida Investigates Rossi Alan J Fletcher Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:36:00 -0700

Claud March 11th, 2012 at 3:21 PM Dear Andrea can you please give us your version of the Florida Bureau inspection referred on some site ? Thank you and good afternoon. C.R. Andrea Rossi March 11th, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Dear Claud: There is not “my version” , there is only one version of the Florida Bureau inspection at Leonardo Corporation, as a matter of fact it is the version derived from the actual facts: We have been very glad to receive their visit and we have explained to them all we had to. We agreed with them that we will keep them informed of all our developments and also explained to them that we do not use radioactive materials and do not produce radioactive materials. The persons we talked with are very prepared and expert, they have been right and correct, and I have been honoured to deal with them. What we said beyond this is confidential and I have nothing to add at all. I give no information at all regarding our factory, as I always said, until our production will be officially announced. I can say, and I am delighted to say this, that the Officers of the Florida State I have been contacted from are glad that we are making jobs in Florida with a company that respects the Law. Of course they will have free access to us in our Florida site, also to verify that we do not use radioactive material and we do not produce radioactive material and, also , we agreed that we will not sell in the USA the domestic E-Cats before the due certification, that will certify that no radiations are emitted from the E-Cats outside the body of the E-Cats while they are working. Warm Regards, A.R.


-Or-
Are you off the Rossi/E-cat bandwagon in the face of yet another straw of con-man behavior?
***Your statement assumes I was on the Ecat bandwagon. Please note that I was posting LENR articles before Rossi showed up and I'll be posting LENR articles after Rossi goes away, whether he turns out to be a fraud or a brooding genius like Thomas Edison. But to address your question, yes, my scam-o-meter has been going back towards scam. Basically at 50% scam-o-meter you can't decide, and to the left is red [SCAM] and to the right is green [goodbye oil dependency], I'm at about 65% green for Rossi and 99% green for LENR. My Rossi scam-o-meter keeps inching back towards the red.


Is there a possible 3rd choice? ***I don't know. There probably is.

[Triple]

That is interesting. Thanks for your reply.

Comparing Rossi to Thomas Edison...That puts Rossi in some very rare company.

I think it is important in science to decouple the science from the scientist, as you are doing (a tiny bit) with Rossi and LENR. Rossi could enable the decoupling of this technology from his tarnished name with a simple independent test.

Until the technology Ecat/science LENR is decoupled from Rossi, I am pegged on scam for Rossi and open minded on LENR, as a practical energy source, pending scientific evidence.

[Johnny B.]

Comparing Rossi to Thomas Edison...That puts Rossi in some very rare company.

Just because Edison was eccentric doesn't mean everyone who acts eccentrically is another Edison.

In particular, Edison has been a perfect excuse for con men who can't otherwise explain their behavior. As you noted, Rossi could clear things up any time he wants to, but he refuses to do so. The notion that he is somehow being a shrewd businessman by making himself look like a con man is ridiculous.

He is following the exact same script as every other "free energy" con man in history (going back at least to the 1880s, that I've found). Here are some of my favorite examples. Read them and you'll be amazed at how much their scams look like what Rossi is doing!

• John Keely. He ran a "free energy" scam for over 20 years in the late 18th Century. His story is so much like Rossi's, it's scary.
• Carl Tilley. Notice that Sterling Allan was a big supporter of Tilley, just as he was with Rossi, until he finally realized that he had been duped.
• Madison Priest. Note that Priest conned tens of millions of dollars from such companies as Intel, General Dynamics and Blockbuster Video.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Is there a reasonable explanation for the seemingly inconsistent statements by Rossi coming soon?"

Actually, yes. The hypothesis that fits more of the total data set than any other is that Rossi has indeed made a breakthrough in LENR, and is also running a scam......but the people being scammed are his potential and actual competitors. Johnny B. and the rest of the skeptopaths will not have any other idea put forth than "Rossi is a crook, and everything he's ever done has been one scam or another".

[Johnny B.]

The hypothesis that fits more of the total data set than any other is that Rossi has indeed made a breakthrough in LENR, and is also running a scam

LOL! Wow, you're going down swinging!

That's a ridiculous theory. If he really had a breakthrough in LENR there would be no reason to run a scam company to try to profit off of it. That is a very paranoid way of thinking.

None of Rossi's dog & pony shows were sufficient to eliminate the possibility of fraud. Given that all of his business dealings are obviously fraudulent, the most reasonable theory is that the invention part is fraudulent as well.

But some people never learn.

[Johnny B.]

"Rossi is a crook, and everything he's ever done has been one scam or another".

Well, that is a true statement.

Petroldragon was a fraud. The Thermoelectric Convertor for the Army never worked, even though Rossi allegedly did some testing at the University of New Hampshire (for which there are no actual records) claiming that it did work.

He was a jewelry manufacturer in Italy in between Petroldragon and the Army, but even that got him in trouble for forging gold sales documents.

And there's the phony engineering degree from the diploma mill.

Yup, that pretty much covers it.

[Triple]

I have read most of these (thank you). I personally consider Rossi to be a (repeat) scam artist.

His actions are those of a scammer, not of a scientist or engineer.

I would not put him in the class of Thomas Edison. If all this turns out to be genuine - then and only then.

[Lx]

Wow, Kevmo is growing up before our very eyes. He’s learned at least one HTML command, next thing you know, he’ll be forming words.

[Wonder Warthog]

I didn't post the reply to you, and I'm not interested in anything you might have to say, on ANY subject.

"If he really had a breakthrough in LENR there would be no reason to run a scam company to try to profit off of it. That is a very paranoid way of thinking. None of Rossi's dog & pony shows were sufficient to eliminate the possibility of fraud. Given that all of his business dealings are obviously fraudulent, the most reasonable theory is that the invention part is fraudulent as well."

Only in your nutcase interpretation of the facts. There "are" other possibilities which you simply refuse to acknowledge exist. I suggest that you develop your own "seagull ping list", and then you and the rest of the skeptopaths can discuss scams. I'm interested in the science and technology of LENR, and not reading your speculations. Please, under no circumstances, post to me again.

[Toddsterpatriot]

You’re making all the Rossi fan boys cry today. LOL!

[Johnny B.]

You’re making all the Rossi fan boys cry today. LOL!

Yup. You notice it's only the pathological "True Believers" who are trying to make sure that they only hear the stories that prop up their hero Rossi.

Worthog suggested I start my own ping list, but I think Kevmo ought to change the name of his to "Only Stories That Prop Up Rossi". That, at least, would be an honest name.

[Johnny B.]

Wow, Kevmo is growing up before our very eyes. He’s learned at least one HTML command, next thing you know, he’ll be forming words.

And it only took him three tries to get it right!

[Moonman62]

Forget the ecat. I’m interested in Wonder Warthog’s reality distortion machine.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Even the mods are tired of hearing him whine. LOL!

[muawiyah]

"Both of these can only occur in nuclear reactions." ~ well, there you have it Johnny B. ~ CAST IN STONE ~ no doubt. I gather Gamow Tunneling doesn't exist anymore.

Sure, it's a "nuclear" reaction ~ but we all know that you have in mind only HOT HIGH ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS.

Gamow Tunneling is not limited to that venue though. It can involve a single atom of hydrogen (if you wait long enough).

So what I'd like you to do is tell us that you don't believe Gamow Tunneling is relevant ~ nor does it exist ~ nor can it affect only a single atom.

Just do it man. You're among friends. We'll understand.

[muawiyah]

UL is not all it's cracked up to be. We were buying 1500 or so brand new load cell based postal scales and the guy had his production ready model ready for first article testing.

So, he'd gone to UL and it was OK. So, we did our test and observed that the set screw for the adjustable legs would, in its travel, cut through the main power cord.

TEST YOUR OWN STUFF NO MATTER WHAT.

[muawiyah]

Wonder, JB has been on again, off again, in any sort of serious discussion ~ "cycling" I believe they used to call it. Comes and goes ~ check Autumnal and Vernal Equinox.

However, he keeps remembering that all of this stuff has to work, if at all, in comformance with the various "laws" discovered in research into nuclear and electro-weak forces.

He always ignores GAMOW TUNNELING, which is a general rule, and the very one that made it possible to think things through to designing a reactor to create a radioactive pile.

Makes it annoying as hell to discuss anything with him ~