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Need help from former chopper pilots. Combat experience preferred

Posted on 07/12/2011 2:31:52 PM PDT by EnglishCon

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I need to talk to a couple of combat chopper pilots, for a novel I am working on (well currently stuck on). Looking for someone to talk over A2A and A2G combat in a chopper, not a fixed wing.

And since many many people here are proud to have served their country in many capacities, it was the first place I thought to ask. Being a para, my only real experience with military air combat is jumping out of them, with the feeling of immense releif at getting out of that horrendously uncomfortable seat!


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1 posted on 07/12/2011 2:31:55 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

I don’t know if they have flown choppers but I know 2 FReepers who are really good writers.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 2:35:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

I could proof read it for you


3 posted on 07/12/2011 2:36:52 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: al baby

It’s a sci fi novel (which mentions a couple of forbidden topics!), but proof reading is always welcome!


4 posted on 07/12/2011 2:38:20 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon
I haven't flown 'em, but...


5 posted on 07/12/2011 2:39:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: EnglishCon; KevinDavis

I love science fiction!

I could give you an opinion on it.

Me and another guy are always talking about scifi at this board

http://libertyfic.proboards.com


6 posted on 07/12/2011 2:41:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon

I flew the mighty Preffered. It was the 66 version, with the dual releif gatlins. I was pilot orange, traveled the na dang peninsula mostly. Lost both my legs on a hard langing in a dmz, and eventually got a job on wall street. Now, I specialize in orange juice futures.


7 posted on 07/12/2011 2:47:24 PM PDT by Professional
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To: EnglishCon
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I can help you. I used to get the High Score on this at the pizza place by my High School...I'm pretty sure it's the same thing, it had missles and stuff. :-)

8 posted on 07/12/2011 2:49:01 PM PDT by txroadkill (Welcome to Texas Glenn.)
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To: EnglishCon

Contact the Public Affairs Office of any Army aviation regiment and ask for help. They may have pilots willing to volunteer.


9 posted on 07/12/2011 2:53:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thanks! Never even thought of that!

The combat is a combo of air war, where the most advanced machines are choppers (it is a society thing), guerilla warfare (was taught that in boot) and kinetic strikes from space, which is, of course thankfully fictional. The latter two I can handle.
The first I want to make real for any readers who have done it themselves.


10 posted on 07/12/2011 2:58:40 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: Professional

Thank you for your service.


11 posted on 07/12/2011 3:00:05 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (BE BOLD SARAH)
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To: Sybeck1

Amen to that.


12 posted on 07/12/2011 3:04:08 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: Sybeck1

No thanks needed, I was later honored in a great war movie, called Trading Places.


13 posted on 07/12/2011 3:07:27 PM PDT by Professional
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To: EnglishCon

I an thankful twice for every July 10th: Thankful that the Viet Cong that shot a RPG at me did not know elevation and thankful to the chopper pilot that blew him away.


14 posted on 07/12/2011 3:09:54 PM PDT by mountainlion (AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.)
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To: EnglishCon

http://www.chpa-us.org

http://www.facebook.com/groups/196724920353496


15 posted on 07/12/2011 3:15:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Professional

Mr Valentine, I presume?


16 posted on 07/12/2011 3:15:33 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (BE BOLD SARAH)
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To: EnglishCon

Why don’t you ask Obama? He loves to make up sh*t.


17 posted on 07/12/2011 3:16:01 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: EnglishCon

One brother was a chopper pilot in Iraq and my other was a weapons officer. I could have them contact you if you’d like.


18 posted on 07/12/2011 3:16:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: SkyDancer

Please do!


19 posted on 07/12/2011 3:18:44 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: max americana

I prefer the stuff I make up to be realistic ;)


20 posted on 07/12/2011 3:19:41 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

Okay, will contact them (I’m here in Australia) - send me an email address in personal mail here.


21 posted on 07/12/2011 3:22:59 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Sybeck1

I’m feeling good Louis.


22 posted on 07/12/2011 3:24:38 PM PDT by Professional
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To: EnglishCon
Not a pilot but lots of stick time and boucoup hours as a Crewchief/door-gunner...(as a little known fact...Chased Russian helicopters on the cambodian border in ‘68)
23 posted on 07/12/2011 3:28:37 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: EnglishCon

I was a FW & RW Army aviator pilot with Huey and Cobra experience in Vietnam (69/70). How can I help?


24 posted on 07/12/2011 3:34:19 PM PDT by O6ret (for)
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To: Professional

tell us about your ‘quart of blood’ technique


25 posted on 07/12/2011 3:43:53 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: Professional

That was the best scene in the movie.

Did I ever tell you about the time I caddied for the Dali Lama?


26 posted on 07/12/2011 3:44:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: EnglishCon

Back when I flew the CH-53D, our solution for air to air was either count on the door gunners & their .50 cals, or try to maneuver above the enemy aircraft and then get your crew chief to throw the tiedown chains into his rotors ;-)

Seriously, we did send one aircraft to China Lake for air to air testing. They programed the flight characteristics into the range computers simulating the -53 was armed with Sidewinders, added hard points on the sponsons and mounted “gun” cameras. The -53 crew then went out and flew Air Combat Maneuvering missions against all of the fighters in the US inventory. Back then, few of the fighters had look down-shoot down radar, so if the -53 stayed low, the fighters radar could not “see” the -53 in all the “ground clutter”.

The -53 would look up for the fighters silhouetted against the sky. Once he was spotted they would turn toward the fighter which caused the fighters dive angle to quickly steepen. The fighter would have to break off the dive, the -53 would quickly turn around and “pop him up the tailpipe” with the Sidewinder. The Range computers decided that below 15,000 feet Fighter vs Helo armed with Sidewinders was a 50-50 proposition, EXCEPT for the Harriers. They won 90% of the engagements by using their thrust vectoring.

This was back in the mid to late ‘70’s, so a lot has changed by now.


27 posted on 07/12/2011 3:45:21 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Oh man, I haven’t had to do that since 1983 when I was wrongfully imprisoned. Man, that year was a doozie.


28 posted on 07/12/2011 3:46:35 PM PDT by Professional
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To: ansel12

No? I’ve been to Cameroon, but never Tibet.


29 posted on 07/12/2011 3:49:14 PM PDT by Professional
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To: EnglishCon

My Ex is a helicopter parent.


30 posted on 07/12/2011 3:54:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Professional

Billy Ray!


31 posted on 07/12/2011 3:56:42 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: EnglishCon

You have a very interesting story there. I loved it to the point where it stops. It is certainly something I would keep reading!


32 posted on 07/12/2011 4:26:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon

You have a very interesting story there. I loved it to the point where it stops. It is certainly something I would keep reading!


33 posted on 07/12/2011 4:36:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Professional

Orange juice futures! cool!

/jk

thank you for your service


34 posted on 07/12/2011 4:39:29 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: BwanaNdege; EnglishCon

fascinating.

The story looks to be a hodgepodge of modern, future and very old non-tech warfare. Tidbits like that post could find their way into a story!


35 posted on 07/12/2011 4:43:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Rebelbase

lol


36 posted on 07/12/2011 4:44:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon

I had a lot of experience as a doorgunner then crew chief then flight engineer on a Super C model CH 47 Chinook in Nam.. Got shot at a lot, shot down a few times,, carried a lotta ordinance, troops, dropped a little napalm (flamedrops) and actually got a body count off a sling load of razor wire I (we) skip bombed to an overun firebase to reinforce the perimeter that had been bangalor torpedoed open.. those were the good old days :p


37 posted on 07/12/2011 8:54:14 PM PDT by contrarian ( KEEP YOUR BEEBERS STUNED)
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To: EnglishCon

Just wanted to say thank you to for all the replies, both here and privately.

I promise I shall be picking the brains of those who replied unmercifully! And if anyone else wants to read the work in progress, just drop me a line.


38 posted on 07/13/2011 7:17:35 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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