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Was Obama an Indonesian citizen? [Evidence raises concerns over presidential qualification]
WND ^ | May 08, 2011 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/09/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: Vermont Lt
Colleges love having foreign students and will give them preferential treatment in terms of financial aid and acceptance in order to enhance the diversity of the school.

That's actually not true. Foreign students generally don't get aid and have to pay full price. As far as diversity is concerned, what matters to colleges is racial diversity. that is, they want to have a large non-white, non-Asian percentage in the student body, so for this purpose, an American black or Latino student is just as good as a foreign one.

601 posted on 05/12/2011 9:13:55 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Hotlanta Mike
But just two weeks before Obama finally released his “birth certificate,” Fukino was interviewed by NBC News’ national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was “half typed and half handwritten.” Problem: The document released with great pomp and ceremony by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were “handwritten.”

Seriously? Is that the best you can do? Quibbling over how much is typewritten and handwritten? LOL.

Hawaii’s systematic granting of US citizenship to people born outside the confines of the US.

That's a pretty serious charge. I've seen birthers make it quite frequently. Problem is, I've yet to see any evidence. Go any?

602 posted on 05/12/2011 9:34:12 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Fred Nerks; Brown Deer
The AFRICAN-AMERICAN INSTITUTE - with funds from the Rockefeller Brothers Trust, brought foreign students to the US from the EARLY FIFTIES - from all over the world, many from Africa and THE DUTCH EAST INDIES/INDONESIA.

The only trouble is that this scholarship program ended in 1975:

http://www.aaionline.org/Programs/AfricanScholarshipProgramOfAmericanUniversities.aspx

Obama started college in 1979. Nice try, though.

603 posted on 05/12/2011 9:40:08 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: bushpilot1
Fullbrights are for graduate students, not undergraduates.

So no, no birther has yet named an undergraduate scholarship which it would have been easier for Obama to get as an Indonesian than as an American.

Keep trying, though.

604 posted on 05/12/2011 9:42:21 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Seriously? Is that the best you can do? Quibbling over how much is typewritten and handwritten? LOL.


Read it and weep oh uncurious one...by the way, Fukino knew a forged document was going to be made public. That’s why she stated what she stated because the forgery is not the document that SHE saw on file.

LOLMA!!!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55240893/Hornbeck-v-Salazar-Re-Obama-s-Forged-Birth-Certificate-Attachments-1-Exhibit-5-11-2011


605 posted on 05/12/2011 9:44:09 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
LOL. Now you send me a link to some hack who claims he's a document expert quibbling over the positioning of certain letters.

Keep it coming. Watching you guys grasp at straws is pretty entertaining.

606 posted on 05/12/2011 9:50:04 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Fred Nerks
"There is an inside story out there that the Joint Chief's required Biden to sign the orders on the grounds that he is Acting President under the 20th Amendment."

Is this right? "The Constitution already says that in the event of the incapacity, death, resignation or removal from office of a President, it is the Vice-President who fills the role of President."

Yes.

Also responsive to bgill's #594:

Please explain more about the Biden thing. Are you saying the Joint Chief's know for a fact (or at least highly suspect) the order was issued by an ineligible CinC? If so, then that's a huge red flag which begs the question why aren't they pushing to end this charade of his?

The succession clause turns on a "President" in office; same as the Supreme Court nomination clause. Under clear and unambiguous Supreme Court decisions, a person who is not eligible to hold an office does not hold it. Obama is not the President--he is just a fake.

The legal proposition is the 20th Amendment which provides that when Congress certifies an eligible person as Vice President, but fails to certify an eligible person as President, the Vice President is "Acting President" which is where we presently sit. Biden is Acting President.

I don't know for sure, and there is insufficient information available to tell what really happened. However knowledge that Obama has some problem with his eligibility to occupy the office is widespread in DC. Most insider's assume that he is not eligible.

What the Joint Chief's think is beyond me. I have always thought the military was most exposed by this condition and I am surprised that the Chief's have allowed the situation to continue. So it would be reasonable to see them act to cover the risk that this particular operation, in the context of the character of the exposure, might have liability they did not want their people to take on.

There is also an Insider story that Obama was not involved in the decision to act--that the decision was made by Hillary and Panetta. That story may be attempted cover for ultimately relying on action by Joe; the entire story may be fake; we really don't know yet.

I guess at a minimum, you can assume that the obvious controversy over his eligibility is having some impact on the decision making process.

607 posted on 05/12/2011 9:55:19 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: curiosity

It’s been introduced into a lawsuit dingbat!

Hornbeck v. Salazar: New Court Filings Related To Obama’s Usurpation Including An Affidavit Regarding Obama’s New Forged Birth Certificate

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/hornbeck-v-salazar-new-court-filings.html

You like playing devil’s advocat, try and dispute his claims oh knowledgeable one!


608 posted on 05/12/2011 9:56:22 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: curiosity

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2717548/replies?c=549

You don’t know where his money came from or who sponsored him, but nice try 0bot troll...


609 posted on 05/12/2011 10:20:05 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
It’s been introduced into a lawsuit dingbat!

LOL. So? The amoung of junk has been introduced into birther lawsuits as "evidence" is staggering.

This is yet another example.

I guarantee you that this junk lawsuit will be dismissed post haste, just like every other birther lawsuit.

610 posted on 05/12/2011 10:27:18 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Why do you keep showing us your absurb and asinine ignorance? Don’t you have anything better to do?


611 posted on 05/12/2011 10:27:18 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Kenny Bunk
That is, the man's father was a foreigner. That is the beginning and the end of the eligibility story.

Unfortunately, that is merely your opinion. Not a fact.

If that definition of a "natural-born citizen" was widely shared, somebody would've raised their hand and broached a question months before the 2008 election. Nobody did.

Ipso facto, almost all jurists, legal minds and political animals hold a contrary opinion.

Who's right? I don't know. And neither do you, though you're entitled to your opinion. And you are absolutely right -- the eligibility question absolutely must be addressed and firmly resolved...forever.

612 posted on 05/12/2011 10:42:41 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: curiosity

Actually, it is true.

I work with 23 colleges. In conversations with administration of all but the public college and universities there is a great push towards getting foreign students. They are given preferential treatment.

In fact, the reason why a lot of “colleges” are changing to universities is to attract more of this foreign diversity. Perhaps the dozen or more institutions that pay my salary are unusual. But because of the vast difference in socio-econmic and concentrations (my words are chosen carefully) I think it might be more accurate than a random position.


613 posted on 05/12/2011 10:53:21 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (How long before the Mall becomes Tahifir Sq?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Mike, the released document does not claim to be a "COPY" of the original. The Document given to the pResident's attorney was a new document, an abstract newly compiled using some part of the data on file with the HIDOH. Of course, everyone thinks it is a xerox or photocopy of the original. Of course, it is not.

Therefore the released BC is not a "COPY" of the original documents on file. Rather it is an "ABSTRACT." The WH has indeed released a "COPY." However it is not, as they have led everyone to believe, a "COPY" of the original long form BC.
In fact, if one were to study their remarks on the subject carefully, one would find that they have actually never claimed that it was!

IOW, the WH has released a faithful copy of the abstract the HIDOH gave them, rather neatly making any problems with the document, "NOT OUR FAULT!"

The deception has worked brilliantly. While the world now accepts it as a copy of the pResident's actual BC, we still have no idea of everything that might, or might not, be on the source documents from which it was "abstracted."

It's not what
the HIDOH put in the abstract.
It's what they didn't.

We'll apparently never see the originals, or know what's on them, because Congress and the Courts have refused to consider the issue in any way, shape, or form. Stranger still is the fact that the State of Hawaii, contrary to its own version of the "Freedom of Information" laws, refuses access to to them!
614 posted on 05/12/2011 11:02:12 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: bushpilot1
Is Obama natural born?

Yes or No.

Of course he is. Just as much as his famous neighbors Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. The point being, you can't depend on the Constitution to keep traitors out of the Oval Office. And, in any case, it's a hopeless cause, because you need 67 senators to do anything about it.

615 posted on 05/12/2011 11:03:40 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Fred Nerks
In regard to the answers given on the extension request form:

Barack Obama Sr. not only neglected to mention little Barack Jr., but that he had two children in Kenya at the time, Malik (Roy), whom he named, and a daughter, Auma. whom he did not.( Later on, while married to his third wife, Ruth, with who he had two sons, two other children, Abo and Bernard, were born to Kezia.)

He also left blank the "Name of Spouse" entry. At the date on the document, BHO, SR was not yet divorced from Stanley Ann, but still married to Kezia back in Kenya, so with one space for two spouses, what was the poor fellow to do?

The one lasting contribution our pResident will make to his adopted land will be to provide African-American Studies Ph.D. candidates a wealth of mysterious leads to run down as they complete their dissertations on "The Effects of Barack Hussein OBama's Legacy on LUO Poetry." etc. ad nauseam.

616 posted on 05/12/2011 11:48:20 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: bgill
I've been trying to remember the who/what/when of that statement about not having a passport until he was a Senator. Do you happen to have a link for Mario saying that? Did he say that before or after the break in at the passport office. Another connect the dot coincidence?
I was thinking it might have been Andy Martin. I just searched and this from 1/20/09 came up: FOIA - Barry never had an American passport under ... Barack Obama until ... issued as a US Senator? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2168340/posts
617 posted on 05/12/2011 11:56:02 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Brown Deer
Don’t you have anything better to do?

He/She claims to be a professor....does that answer your question?

618 posted on 05/12/2011 12:00:59 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: okie01
Who's right? I don't know. And neither do you, though you're entitled to your opinion.

Therein lies the tragedy in all of this. We should know. We have been failed by the institutions whose sworn duty is to tell us. Personally, I would be disappointed to learn that my opinion is incorrect. But as you say, at this stage in the game, it should no longer be a matter of my opinion or yours, but a settled issue. How the hell do we get there? And you are absolutely right -- the eligibility question absolutely must be addressed and firmly resolved...forever.

A we lurch toward the elections of 2012, everyone is hoping that BHO, Jr. will resolve his shabby part in all of this by not running. But the question must be addressed lest other impostors claim Obama as some sort of precedent.

But what if he does run? Is there one Republican candidate who will take this to court? I see none.

619 posted on 05/12/2011 12:02:24 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: Fred Nerks
That first memo with the broken keys is typical of government issue office equipment. Anyone who waxes poetically about fancy smancy cutting edge office supplies and equipment is trying to create a diversion.
620 posted on 05/12/2011 12:11:26 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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