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The Real Reason Why Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Probably Fake
TrueblueNZ ^ | 04/28/11 | Redbaiter

Posted on 04/28/2011 6:26:54 AM PDT by wistful

Donald Trump did it. Unfazed by the lies of Obama’s mainstream media troops, he stuck to his guns and exposed the big lie that Obama had produced his birth certificate. This lie was propogated by almost every media personality for example Bill O’Reilly, who stated he had seen the birth certificate, and George Stephanopoulos, who only a few days ago waved the COLB in Michelle Bachmann’s face and intimidated her into agreeing that it was THE CERTIFICATE.

The claim that Obama had produced his certificate was a lie. Here’s the rub though. Obama knew it was a lie, because, if what we are being told now is true, he knew the Long Form was on file in Hawaii. He knew it was on file, but all this time, has remained quiet about that fact, and allowed everyone backing him to maintain the fiction that the COLB was the real Birth Certificate.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs many times stood before a sniggering incompetent and partisan White House Press Gallery and stated the COLB was the Birth certificate. The White House Press Secretary lied outright to the White House Press Corp. And even now, after this lie has been starkly exposed the Press Corp remain mute on one of the biggest hoaxes ever performed upon the American people.

For two years or more they all tried to pass off the COLB as the real birth certificate. Gibbs lied. The Democrats lied. Most of the mainstream media lied.

Obama never came out and told the truth. “Yes, the claim my critics are making that the COLB is not the real certificate is true. There is a long form and it is on file in Hawaii.” He never said this. He allowed the fiction to stand.

Now, anyone out there who claims this Long Form Certificate is the real thing, you tell me why the fiction that the COLB was a birth certificate was maintained for so long.

It was only recently that Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino clarified her statements enough to state unmistakeably that there was a Long Form Birth certificate on file. All previous statements had been contradictory, vague and evasive and did not mention a Long Form Certificate. She used “original vital records” and other such unclear terms. When everyone was hollering about the Long Form Certificate, she never once used this term. Until only a few days before Obama produced the document.

Sorry people. I did not come down in the last shower. This circumstance stinks to high heaven. I do not believe this fabricated and fictional artifice. I will await further forensic evidence before making my mind up fully on this issue, but I’m far from convinced and I don’t see how anyone with any intelligence could be. Trust but verify some people are saying. Maybe, frankly I find it hard to trust anyone who strongly supported a fiction for two years or more with lawyers and rhetoric and propaganda, and let an honourable American soldier go to jail, when it all could have been put to rest so easily.


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KEYWORDS: birth; certificate; forgery; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: frogjerk

Fact: Barry has been represented in numerous lawsuits challenging his eligibility

Fact: The challenges continue

Fact: Some of the legal cases are working their way through the higher ocurts

Fact: Barry (or his handlers) have paid his legal reps over $2 million in fees since 2009

Perkins Coie, of which his WH counsel Robert Bauer is/was a principal

I would not be so wary about claiming a million in legal fees (at least) has been generated by this issue. I do not dismiss WND research just because it is WND research.


41 posted on 04/28/2011 6:59:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: TommyTrojan

“It is interesting to note that the first fake COLB (circa 2008) came replete with an endorsement of its authenticity from FactCheck.org.I wonder if a similar stamp of approval is forthcoming for this latest rendition?”

Yeah, good point.

It shouldn’t receive the stamp of approval, but it probably will. Factcheck maintained it was a Birth Certificate too so what do they know?


42 posted on 04/28/2011 6:59:17 AM PDT by wistful
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To: cartan

plus, what kind of professional forger would name a registrar U K L Lee (ukelele)


43 posted on 04/28/2011 7:00:39 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: spacejunkie01
So you think ALL those court cases over the past 2 years odumbo was represented PRO BONO?? The plaintiffs attorneys have cumulatively spent millions...why do you think odumdo DIDN’T to represent himself and block this??

Listen, here is the issue that I see. If you are going to want the Ts crossed and Is dotted with Obama regarding facts then you should hold yourself to the same standard list only known hard facts especially when it comes to claims of amounts of money being spent

44 posted on 04/28/2011 7:01:04 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Errant

A real professional archivist would be happy and indeed, welcoming, of other professionals to view the quality of his work, of the documents and records under his keeping. I am surprised that Doctor Onaka hasn’t asked for such a professional review and vetting.


45 posted on 04/28/2011 7:02:26 AM PDT by bvw
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To: walkingdead
Honestly, how many times have you signed your name and “forgot” to put your first name in there? Seems weird doesn’t it?
Never. But I have only one first name :-). Many people with several first names use only one of them. Perhaps she didn’t like “Stanley.”
46 posted on 04/28/2011 7:06:17 AM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan
And here are two reasons why it is probably not fake: 1.Forging such a document would be a felony.

Why would that be a felony? It was not presented in a court of law or anything. I could doctor mine up and post it on the internet. No law broken.

47 posted on 04/28/2011 7:06:47 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very Internet he invented. Oh, the irony!)
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To: wistful

THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Unless of course the person is another leftist.

Then the problem’s solved. Gone. No more questions.


48 posted on 04/28/2011 7:07:21 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: frogjerk
His legal expenses aren't a legal fact that needs to be verified to the penny. Most of us can just use common sense and realize that the figure spent is very high. It isn't an evidential fact regarding his eligibility it's just an obvious fact that brings into question "why?."

When they send a shuttle into space do you need to see all the receipts to know that it's expensive? LOL C'mon!

49 posted on 04/28/2011 7:08:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: bvw

You make perfect sense, of course. The original records should be reviewed by reputable forensic examiners, included those representing folks who have challenged Obama’s legitimacy. That would raise the evidence to legal-process

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“An honest man has nothing to fear from a forensics test: like DNA evidence, it helps to convict the guilty and protect the innocent.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/not_so_fast_mr_obama_trust_but.html


50 posted on 04/28/2011 7:09:58 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: wistful

FactCheck lies


51 posted on 04/28/2011 7:10:42 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: Mr. K
There is a GREAT YouTube video out last night were a guy opens the doc in Adobe Ilustrator and picks up the different layers and moves them around. The whole ID block removes. Signatures, dates, all move. Impossible to do for a scanned document.
That is not impossible at all. All you need is software that applies MRC-compression to PDFs. It will (try to) put the text and the background image automatically into different layers and compress them independently. This is a standard technique used by archiving software, for example. It is quite possible that the Apple PDF software they used for this PDF does it by default (I can’t check because I do not own a Mac).
52 posted on 04/28/2011 7:11:00 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Hodar

Not a one, yes, alas, but many pretenders


53 posted on 04/28/2011 7:12:50 AM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: cartan
It is quite possible that the Apple PDF software they used for this PDF does it by default...

So you're guessing. You don't actually know anything about that software.

54 posted on 04/28/2011 7:14:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: bvw
I am surprised that Doctor Onaka hasn’t asked for such a professional review and vetting.

Maybe the original only exists as a digital image. If so, why send your personal lawyer to retrieve it? Nothing is as it seems and many people are involved in seeing that it never is.

55 posted on 04/28/2011 7:14:32 AM PDT by Errant
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To: dandiegirl

I think he is hiding obtaining a scholarship as a “foreign student”. What about the grandmother swearing he was born in Kenya? And Abercrombie saying there was no long form certificate even there in HI?


56 posted on 04/28/2011 7:18:51 AM PDT by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. What does OH see in him?)
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To: cartan

Good points. More importantly, if it were a forgery I would expect somebody in Hawaii to speak up at some point. I supposed it is possible that what is printed on the document doesn’t accurately reflect what is in the true record but as you point out, somebody would have to be willing to commit a felony to make that happen. Given all the attention this has garnered I can’t imagine someone being willing to do that.


57 posted on 04/28/2011 7:19:03 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: wistful

Why doesn’t it look like mine? With my baby footprint, length, weight and religion? Didn’t Hawaii do it like NY State did?


58 posted on 04/28/2011 7:20:25 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Homer1
After Trump’s dog and pony show, this thing is done.

Right you are. I would love to see a forensic document examiner take a look, but that won't happen, no way, at least not in our lifetimes.

Maybe 100 years from now, a historian will be allowed to examine the original documents and then he will write a book about all this. But for now, case closed (sad for the Republic).

59 posted on 04/28/2011 7:21:10 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern, you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Errant

“Maybe the original only exists as a digital image.”

I think there are two versions. One is a paper copy given to Associated Press that is represented on the net by an obvious scan. There are no problems with this document.

The second document came from the White House site (I think) and is in the digital format that has caused all the questions.

You can see both documents side by side here-

http://truebluenz.com/2011/04/28/pic-obama-long-form-birth-certificate/

The bluish colored one is the AP release.


60 posted on 04/28/2011 7:22:58 AM PDT by wistful
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