You mean that. It's devastating.
Skip to comments.The Real Reason Why Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Probably Fake
Posted on 04/28/2011 6:26:54 AM PDT by wistful
Donald Trump did it. Unfazed by the lies of Obamas mainstream media troops, he stuck to his guns and exposed the big lie that Obama had produced his birth certificate. This lie was propogated by almost every media personality for example Bill OReilly, who stated he had seen the birth certificate, and George Stephanopoulos, who only a few days ago waved the COLB in Michelle Bachmanns face and intimidated her into agreeing that it was THE CERTIFICATE.
The claim that Obama had produced his certificate was a lie. Heres the rub though. Obama knew it was a lie, because, if what we are being told now is true, he knew the Long Form was on file in Hawaii. He knew it was on file, but all this time, has remained quiet about that fact, and allowed everyone backing him to maintain the fiction that the COLB was the real Birth Certificate.
Press Secretary Robert Gibbs many times stood before a sniggering incompetent and partisan White House Press Gallery and stated the COLB was the Birth certificate. The White House Press Secretary lied outright to the White House Press Corp. And even now, after this lie has been starkly exposed the Press Corp remain mute on one of the biggest hoaxes ever performed upon the American people.
For two years or more they all tried to pass off the COLB as the real birth certificate. Gibbs lied. The Democrats lied. Most of the mainstream media lied.
Obama never came out and told the truth. Yes, the claim my critics are making that the COLB is not the real certificate is true. There is a long form and it is on file in Hawaii. He never said this. He allowed the fiction to stand.
Now, anyone out there who claims this Long Form Certificate is the real thing, you tell me why the fiction that the COLB was a birth certificate was maintained for so long.
It was only recently that Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino clarified her statements enough to state unmistakeably that there was a Long Form Birth certificate on file. All previous statements had been contradictory, vague and evasive and did not mention a Long Form Certificate. She used original vital records and other such unclear terms. When everyone was hollering about the Long Form Certificate, she never once used this term. Until only a few days before Obama produced the document.
Sorry people. I did not come down in the last shower. This circumstance stinks to high heaven. I do not believe this fabricated and fictional artifice. I will await further forensic evidence before making my mind up fully on this issue, but Im far from convinced and I dont see how anyone with any intelligence could be. Trust but verify some people are saying. Maybe, frankly I find it hard to trust anyone who strongly supported a fiction for two years or more with lawyers and rhetoric and propaganda, and let an honourable American soldier go to jail, when it all could have been put to rest so easily.
Not to mention - if he had a bona fide birth certificate, why spend millions to prevent presenting it in court and stopping all the eligibility lawsuits???
Now will he provide this “official certificate” to a court?
I doubt it. He may be a street rat but he knows enough about the law to be spooked by this.
However, by his sideshow yesterday, he crossed the Rubicon- into open fraud before the press and public.
The ONLY reason why Obama released the Birth Certificate is because of Donald Trump.
The ONLY reason why Trump forced Obama to capitulate, is because not a single member in Congress has a spine. There is not a single Republican, not a one - who was willing to stand up for what they swore that they believe in.
They are cowards, lacking the spine to stand up and demand what should have been examined before election was even held. Not one set of balls in the entire Republican Party.
Yes, and didn’t the governor of Hawaii state not too long ago that they COULDN’T find his birth certificate - that one didn’t exist?
So many contradictions - and yet, even people that are supposed to be on our side - refuse to even ask questions about it?
What we have here is very simple ~ a WILLFUL MISREPRESENTATION by the Administration ~ whose spokespeeps are now saying "a legal document" with regards to the "short form" they peddled earlier.
They had at least three different "short forms" out there ~ each one of which had been substantially edited to do nothing more than FIT someone's laptop or blackberry!
These people are not terribly knowledgeable in the field of image production ~ and are too stupid to know how deficient they are.
Gibbs sneered and snorked. He fed the fires like no one else on this issue. The fact he seemed to enjoy the show suggests he plays with himself a lot. Kept putting his hand in his pocket. So, what was in there eh.
Until this is substantiated and not glossed from a WND article, I wouldn't repeat this claim.
No real original document or direct image thereof was released. Instead what was released is a digitized image printed on security paper. The digitized image may be of an actual original document, but it is impossible to confirm that from what has been supplied.
The authority is not the image, it is the signed stamp of the registrar, Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D. He is the only one who has actually seen or who is allowed to see the purported original, according to the wonderful cover story of a plan they concocted.
I remember a Maryland couple going to jail for fraud in the late 90’s for not correctly indicating their incomes on their federally approved mortgage application. They inflated it by around $5,000 in order to qualify. I found it astounding at the time. The judge lectured them on the slippery slope of such deliberate fraud during their sentencing phase.
I agree i see that post a 100 times a day and people just keep repeating it. bizarre.
What I find very strange is that the judge who was handling the case of the court martialed soldier said that she could not order the release of Obamas birth certificate because it would reveal embarrassing details about the president. After examining this so-called long form Certificate of Live Birth I fail to see what is embarrassing? What was the judge talking about then?
After Trump’s dog and pony show, this thing is done. It may very well be a forgery, but, now, you’ll never be able to get any consensus on it. The powers that be have spoken.
Obama held on to the “long form” for so long because the issue was working to his advantage by helping to paint Republicans as nutty conspiracy theorists in the eyes of the mushy middle. When Trump started blasting away in the media they realized the seeds of doubt were spreading to independents so they decided to call off the game.
This one is even more suspect that the last one. The layers mean it could've been put together from someone else's document and 0bama's name inserted.
So getting all “Wee-wee’d up” over something is now a phrase to be inserted into the political playbook of politics. It’s become quite effective.
And now Joe Gibbs, Obamah's righ-hand man, has done exactly that.
And you can bet the Obamah's Pom-Pom media will be demanding Trump do exactly that, regardless of how many experts delcare the COLB-II a fake.
Another thing eating at me is, in one of the court cases his attorneys made the case that they didn’t want to release the BC because there was something “embarassing” on it.
Now, this thing get’s released and there’s nothing “embarassing” on it....that in and of itself, tells me it’s FAKE.
The real point to this exercise is that there is no way that anyone who looks at the complete circumstance of the Long Form’s sudden discovery and appearance cannot be skeptical.
Its just too much to believe. Its contrived and manipulated.
The document must undergo proper forensic testing to absolve the office of the President from suspicion of fraud.
Where was that said? Was it in court transcript?
So you think ALL those court cases over the past 2 years odumbo was represented PRO BONO?? The plaintiffs attorneys have cumulatively spent millions...why do you think odumdo DIDN’T to represent himself and block this??
You make a good point- This should be tested.
Is Obama willing to submit this in court as his real BC? A forensic examiner for the opponent would have a field day.
There is a GREAT YouTube video out last night were a guy opens the doc in Adobe Ilustrator and picks up the different layers and moves them around. The whole ID block removes. Signatures, dates, all move. Impossible to do for a scanned document.
The document must undergo proper forensic testing to absolve the office of the President from suspicion of fraud.You make perfect sense, of course. The original records should be reviewed by reputable forensic examiners, included those representing folks who have challenged Obama's legitimacy. That would raise the evidence to legal-process forensic standards.
And it is an unnecessary claim at that. The delay alone is sufficient to prove there is something not right here.
Yeppers! 0bama outed himself, his staff and the press as bald-faced liars.
One would think it’s in a transcript somewhere as it was definitely the reason given in one of the court cases.
Those are two pretty good arguments. I would respond thus-
1) the president was in a jam. The pressure was getting too much even for him to bear. Remember that some flunky lied to protect John Edwards out of misguided loyalty. Its not inconceivable that some gang that included Obama would try this and then work to tough it out. They might see this as a better option than keeping the mystery rolling.
2) Maybe. Maybe not.
Do we need proof of the moon landing as well? Only Neil Armstrong and 2 others was there — if they were paid off then all bets are off!
Every individual who has completed one day of boot camp in the Service has more integrity in their little finger than all the members of the federal government, Hawaiian government and the msm. There’s a commercial for a cell phone that’s also a computer. The guy is trying to get on an airplane and a TSA supervisors says, “Well which is it, sir? A cell phone or a computer.” So which is it o, a certificate or a certification?
“Ann Dunhams signature. Apparently, she forgot to put her first name there, and then added it in parentheses, as an afterthought.”
Honestly, how many times have you signed your name and “forgot” to put your first name in there? Seems weird doesn’t it?
BO and his minions are very scary. That they would put out this fake (I believe) is just downright evil. What is he hiding? I think this will galvanize people more than ever to vote him out as this is the only way to get this crooked bunch out. It makes us feel powerless and BO more like an dictator that has total control of the people.
So I guess now they will call out the handyman and have him chisel off the plaque on the pillar to the entrance of Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa that states Barack Hussein Obama was born here.
I am truly amazed at Obamas audacity to even think he can get away with this busted flush of a poker bluff of this fabricated imagery of a document.
And even more so the blindness of America to the Constitutional requirement to be President, in essence, Natural Born Citizen. Obama is divided in his loyalty by NOT having a parent of American citizenship.
The plan was turn the BC controversy around on TheDonald and demand he now release his tax returns.
And now Joe Gibbs, Obamah’s righ-hand man, has done exactly that.
And you can bet the Obamah’s Pom-Pom media will be demanding Trump do exactly that, regardless of how many experts delcare the COLB-II a fake.
Gibbs has got to learn to keep his mouth shut. All Trump has to do is call the document a “fraud” and point out all the dependencies, slowly, a few every day. Drip, Drip, Drip. Listen, to me, the “Dude” wants this to go away, FAST. He’s loosing more independents. I don’t care for Trump, but this is better than going to the Carnival, and riding the elephants!!!
A .jpeg is not actually a document. It hasn't been submitted in a legal venue as a legal document for any legal purpose. What is there to make a charge of fraud out of?
It is interesting to note that the first fake COLB (circa 2008) came replete with an endorsement of its authenticity from FactCheck.org.I wonder if a similar stamp of approval is forthcoming for this latest rendition?
You mean that. It's devastating.
The original had to be forged because it was stamped “VOID” after the Soetoro adoption was finalized. Its fake but accurate on a need to know basis. After that, the Soetoro COLB was stamped “VOID” when BO Sr returned to Hawaii in 1971 to object to the Soetoro adoption. Technically, Obama’s COLB with a “Date filed” and not accepted is his BC because it is the only vital record for Obama that hasn’t been voided by court order.
Fact: Barry has been represented in numerous lawsuits challenging his eligibility
Fact: The challenges continue
Fact: Some of the legal cases are working their way through the higher ocurts
Fact: Barry (or his handlers) have paid his legal reps over $2 million in fees since 2009
Perkins Coie, of which his WH counsel Robert Bauer is/was a principal
I would not be so wary about claiming a million in legal fees (at least) has been generated by this issue. I do not dismiss WND research just because it is WND research.
“It is interesting to note that the first fake COLB (circa 2008) came replete with an endorsement of its authenticity from FactCheck.org.I wonder if a similar stamp of approval is forthcoming for this latest rendition?”
Yeah, good point.
It shouldn’t receive the stamp of approval, but it probably will. Factcheck maintained it was a Birth Certificate too so what do they know?
plus, what kind of professional forger would name a registrar U K L Lee (ukelele)
Listen, here is the issue that I see. If you are going to want the Ts crossed and Is dotted with Obama regarding facts then you should hold yourself to the same standard list only known hard facts especially when it comes to claims of amounts of money being spent
A real professional archivist would be happy and indeed, welcoming, of other professionals to view the quality of his work, of the documents and records under his keeping. I am surprised that Doctor Onaka hasn’t asked for such a professional review and vetting.
Honestly, how many times have you signed your name and “forgot” to put your first name in there? Seems weird doesn’t it?Never. But I have only one first name :-). Many people with several first names use only one of them. Perhaps she didn’t like “Stanley.”
Why would that be a felony? It was not presented in a court of law or anything. I could doctor mine up and post it on the internet. No law broken.
THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Unless of course the person is another leftist.
Then the problem’s solved. Gone. No more questions.
When they send a shuttle into space do you need to see all the receipts to know that it's expensive? LOL C'mon!
You make perfect sense, of course. The original records should be reviewed by reputable forensic examiners, included those representing folks who have challenged Obama’s legitimacy. That would raise the evidence to legal-process
An honest man has nothing to fear from a forensics test: like DNA evidence, it helps to convict the guilty and protect the innocent.
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