theres no question that it ws FABRICATED...DIGITALLY...."mechanically" if you will, and thats ILLEGAL!in and of itself
Posted on 04/27/2011 6:46:49 PM PDT by geraldmcg
At long last, Barack Obama Jr. released his long form birth certificate today, clearly proving he is NOT a natural born citizen. So, why has there been virtually no call in the Senate to begin impeachment proceedings? And why are so many news reporters acting as if all Obama needed to substantiate he was a Natural Born Citizen was to prove he was born in the U.S.A?
The U.S. Constitution and U.S. law, as of the time of Obama Junior’s birth, still required a President to have a father (pictured top left) who was a U.S. citizen. Clearly Obama’s father was a British citizen, as clearly shown on the very document Obama released.
Still not convinced? Let’s take a refresher course in U.S. history. Our founding fathers didn’t want any U.S. President to have mixed loyalties so they required that both parents of a President be U.S. citizens in order to qualify their son or daughter to be a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. Period. Simple. Not complicated.
Here’s the exact language of the Naturalization Act of 1790, passed by the first U.S. Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States…”
So there you have it. Obama is not eligible to be U.S. President and needs to be impeached and convicted quickly to avoid a constitutional crisis and to follow rule of law.
Bottom line: It doesn’t matter if Obama was born in Hawaii, which was actually a U.S. Territory at the time of Obama’s birth and not yet a U.S. state. What does matter is that Obama Jr.’s dad Obama Sr. was not a U.S. citizen and thus rendering his son’s Presidential aspirations patently illegal.
Need more proof? The founding fathers put the definition in writing from the defining documents of their day. Founding father John Jay used the definition of “natural born Citizen” straight from The Law of Nations (Vattel) that states: “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…” (Vattel in Book 1, Sec 212)
What’s old is new again...
Sheesh...
Because not everyone agrees with the definition of natural born citizen you pieced together in 2008.
No you’ve done it. Soon the hordes will be here telling us all how the Constitution is a fluid document and the FF didn’t mean what they clearly wrote.
Try again.
Obama was born in ‘61, Hawaii became a state in ‘59, or am I missing something?
Sez who? When citing “US constitution and Law” it’s usually helpful to include minor details like say a citations to the Constitution, or The United States code, or even a supreme court decision supporting your thesis.
Otherwise it’s simply wishful thinking on your part.
der reader didn’t release a long form birth certificate. der reader released a transparently forged certificate of live birth.
I think talking heads and corrupt judges will make sure he is an NBC by hook or by crook. The Constitution rarely if ever matters to these fools.
Hawaii was not a state in 1961??
Think he’s referring to his father.
“I think talking heads and corrupt judges will make sure he is an NBC by hook or by crook.”
Sadly that applies to fellow posters right here on FR as well. All the (oft-mistaken) legalese and none of the ‘intent’. Oh well...guess none of the other things the Founding Fathers said, wrote, inferred and clearly meant when they created the country’s core docs are meaningless as well. Lets PARTY!
Don't stop him, he's on a roll.
And *that* is why I’ve been so frustrated with this entire story from the start.
What is everyone looking for with the BC? Proof that he’s not qualified to be POTUS? We already know that! It doesn’t matter what his BC says because his dad wasn’t an American. He can be a citizen, but not a NBC.
He is not, and never has been, qualified for the position.
So why did he bother to go through 3 years and over a million dollars to hide his BC in the first place? (And it’s this obfuscation that fuels the Birther fires.)
IMHO, it has nothing to do with where he was born. It is my guess that he lied and claimed to be an Indonesian citizen to get funding for college. He’s covering up fraud.
(Thank you.)
Don't impeachment proceedings begin in the House?
“Meanwhile, let us understand that every media writer who has with unbearable condescension stated that the birthers are whack-jobs because the birth issue was resolved by the release of the certification of live birth in 2008 has been shown to be a despicable liar or at best stone-cold indifferent to the truth. If the birth issue was resolved in 2008, then why did Obama release the birth certificate today? If the birth issue was resolved in 2008, then why did Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie try to get the birth certificate released in early 2011, and wasn’t able to do so, because Obama was still refusing at that point to allow his birth certificate to be released? The answer is that the birth issue was NOT resolved in 2008. The people who have been complaining for the last two and half years that the birth certificate has not been released have been proved right, and the people who have been oh-so-knowingly declaring for the last two and a half years that the birth certificate has already been released have been shown to be lying apparatchiks. “
You are right. I have noticed they mix a brew of word gymnastics to get around the clear meaning of NBC clause in the Constitution. There is no reason for the clause if everybody qualifies. The framers clearly meant to limit this to people that had no divided loyalties. We are screwed. Lets party....!!!!
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