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church of Christ preacher killed in Giffords shooting
examiner.com ^ | 10 January 2011 | Ryan Witt

Posted on 01/09/2011 2:05:15 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

A preacher for the church of Christ was killed in the Giffords shooting incident. Slain was Dorwin Stoddard, 76, of Mountain Ave. church of Christ. His wife was wounded. Seems the media hasn't had much to say about that.


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If just about any other religious minister had been killed, the media would be making a point to report it. The media is conspicuously silent about this man's death and the wounding of his wife.
1 posted on 01/09/2011 2:05:18 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
F the media. They have really outdone themselves during this incident - and thats saying quite a bit.

They disgust me beyond words.

2 posted on 01/09/2011 2:07:18 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

“Also recovered in the safe was an envelope with handwriting on the envelope stating ‘I planned ahead,’ and ‘my assassination’ and the name ‘Giffords,’ along with what appears to be Loughner’s signature,” the affidavit states.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 2:09:38 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I cried when I read the story of what Mr. Stoddard did. He threw himself on top of his wife to save her. He died saving his wife.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 2:10:20 PM PST by vickixxxx
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To: skeeter
If he was an Imam, no doubt the media would be reporting about this all day and pretending not to incite violence from fellow muslims, but all the while telling everybody they “hope it doesn't happen” at ad nauseum.
5 posted on 01/09/2011 2:10:40 PM PST by bcr100
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The atheists want to destroy Christianity because it is what made this country a great, exceptional place. It is also a reminder that our Rights come from God and our laws were based in Natural Law which is the origin of common sense. Marxist want no rational thinkers, no reason and logic. It exposes their ugly lies. The Marxist media does everything in their power to marginalize Christianity and wipe that word out of the conscious of the nation. If they do use the term it has to have a negative connotation. Marxism is all about lies.


6 posted on 01/09/2011 2:11:50 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: vickixxxx

“He threw himself on top of his wife to save her.”

A good man and husband.

RIP


7 posted on 01/09/2011 2:14:45 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
One does wonder what a church of Christ preacher and his wife were doing around a politician from the far left. Did it seem to them that visiting with Giffords in a grocery store parking lot would be the way the Holy Spirit would use to convict Giffords of her sins?

That would seem rather doubtful.

OTOH, one can easily doubt the Left-wing shooter would recognize the preacher and his wife, to pick them out as targets, though perhaps whatever demonic spirit possessed the shooter did.

HF

8 posted on 01/09/2011 2:15:36 PM PST by holden
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

http://www.christianchronicle.org/blog/2011/01/breaking-news-church-member-killed-wife-wounded-in-arizona-shooting-rampage/


9 posted on 01/09/2011 2:18:17 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: bcr100

since Rodney King I have been convinced the mainstream news media is seeking to incite violence. Thats the real irony here.


10 posted on 01/09/2011 2:18:19 PM PST by skeeter
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To: holden

I don’t think the Congresswoman was necessarily far left.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 2:18:55 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: holden

Giffords is a blue dog democrat, not a leftwing wacko.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 2:19:37 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
On C4P...

"On January 8, 2011, a search warrant was executed at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue in Tucson, Arizona, where LOUGHNER resides. Some of the evidence seized from that location included a letter in a safe, addressed to “Mr. Jared Loughney” at 7741 N. Soledad Avenue, from Congresswoman Giffords, on Congressional stationary, dated August 30, 2007, thanking him for attending a “Congress on your Corner” event at the Foothills Mall in Tucson. Also recovered in the safe was an envelope with handwriting on the envelope stating “I planned ahead,” and “My assassination” and the name “Giffords,” along with what appears to be LOUGHNER’s signature."

13 posted on 01/09/2011 2:20:59 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Some Church of Christ denoms are liberal


14 posted on 01/09/2011 2:21:48 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: holden

I don’t think that preacher look at wings. Maybe they just wanted to hear what Rep Gifford had to say.


15 posted on 01/09/2011 2:24:37 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

**** Seems the media hasn’t had much to say about that. *&***

We don’t watch T.V so called, “news”, here.

(And the ones who really need to know all the facts, are the college student voting block!)


16 posted on 01/09/2011 2:27:47 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: skeeter
since Rodney King I have been convinced the mainstream news media is seeking to incite violence. Thats the real irony here.

Media mantra has always been, "If it bleeds, it leads".

17 posted on 01/09/2011 2:30:34 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

May Brother Stoddard receive a warm welcome from our Lord, and I’ll say a prayer for his wife and other family.


18 posted on 01/09/2011 2:33:27 PM PST by Tax-chick (The gifts we have, we are given to share.)
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To: hopespringseternal; ClancyJ; Lucas McCain; PFKEY; asformeandformyhouse; Colonel Kangaroo; ...

*coC ping*


19 posted on 01/09/2011 2:36:59 PM PST by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: vickixxxx
I cried when I read the story of what Mr. Stoddard did. He threw himself on top of his wife to save her. He died saving his wife.

What a real hero. Which story did you read?

20 posted on 01/09/2011 2:38:34 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It’s been steadily getting worse and worse for Christians, especially since Obama was immaculated President. Like someone said, if it had been a Muslim imam who lay down his life for his wife (if imams even marry?) that would have been the drumbeat even louder than the judge and Congresswoman being shot. I am of the opinion Obama wants to incite anger in the American people in order to declare martial law on them at the drop of a hat; especially if they don’t toe the line and allow his agenda to go “forward” into the “brave new world” he and his handlers invision.


21 posted on 01/09/2011 2:43:45 PM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’ve read about him several places, and FOX news mentioned not only his name but his church affiliation last night.

Sounds like a fine man.

We lost a good judge, too, and a sweet little girl. So much hurt.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 2:46:17 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

And the extraordinary braveness of the woman who attempted to grab the killer’s extra magazine.

Very little mention of these heroes, only space to blame the tea party patriots.

For shame.


23 posted on 01/09/2011 2:46:35 PM PST by Carley (PRINTING OPINION, IGNORING THE FACTS......the msm!!!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The “already captured” media is -like much of our Government willfully divorced form the Religious. Unless the Press can paint a scandal involving some Preacher— or use some disgraced Preacher to divide the church they have no use for those who proclaim the word of the Lord.I suspect he’s preparing one interesting sermon for that heavenly congregation.


24 posted on 01/09/2011 2:47:10 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I was waiting for the Arizona Sheriff to blame Rush Limbaugh. He was insinuating to Megan Kelly that it is the fault of the radio people who have been against health care. The man is demented. She did call him out on his comments.
25 posted on 01/09/2011 2:48:28 PM PST by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; All
Hey folks, I have been in contact with the church via e-mail. I run the websites for a couple of churches of Christ and contacted them asking if there was a memorial fund or a place to send flowers. below is the text of the e-mail I received:

Thank you for your condolences and for your prayers at this time. Since the incident happened less than 24 hours ago we have not discussed memorial funds, etc. It's mostly just been grappling with the freakish nature of this great loss. Dory was not our pulpit minister here at Mountain Ave. But he was in charge if our benevolence and maintenance committees. My father, Michael Nowak, is the pulpit minister and can be contacted at mike@ma-coc.org. Again, Thank you for your prayers and your willingness to help.

I will post updates when I get them

26 posted on 01/09/2011 2:50:17 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: holden

You are misjudging Giffords who was, by all accounts, a conservative Democrat. That party needs to reform from within, and I wish her well.

You are also mixing politics and religion, which our Savior never did.

I know fine church friends who are long-time Democrats, although disgusted by some of the positions today’s Democratic party has taken. Remember that platforms change and that conservatism does not always ally itself with one party.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 2:51:24 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Sloth

ping to post 26


28 posted on 01/09/2011 2:52:31 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

http://www.christianchronicle.org/blog/2011/01/breaking-news-church-member-killed-wife-wounded-in-arizona-shooting-rampage/ This is The Christian Chronicle article. The article is under their blog dated Jan 8th.


29 posted on 01/09/2011 2:57:07 PM PST by vickixxxx
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To: skeeter

True, they want the coverage to get their ratings up and become famous reporters. Pathetic.


30 posted on 01/09/2011 3:01:51 PM PST by bcr100
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; fatnotlazy; skeeter; AppyPappy
I went overboard saying far left, though I would understand use use the small 'c' in church of Christ would indicate the more conservative branch than those labeling themselves "Churches of Christ", e.g., Disciples of Christ, United Churches of Christ, or God forbid, Obama's flavor, as in Trinity United Church of Christ.

I do recognize she was in hot water with abortion proponents and the gay mafia for her opposition to them. If the preacher and his wife were helping to stiffen Giffords' spine on such things, I would applaud that.

Indeed, I was wrong to imply a church of Christ preacher couldn't find some common ground with Giffords. It's not very hard to imagine, now that I've read some of her positions. Generally working within the party religion that so steadfastly supports abortion and homosexual marriage would be sufficient to avoid such politicians, but that would reasonably become personal prerogative in the case of blue dog democrat positions, if held firmly, unlike some Democrat squeeky wheels looking to be greased.

Certainly showing the love to sacrifice one's own life for another is one of the highest virtues one can ever display (1 Jn 3:16, Jn 15:13, Mk 10:45, Lk 17:33, Jn 13:37).

HF

31 posted on 01/09/2011 3:02:00 PM PST by holden
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If a preacher was killed then it must have been either a satanic ritual killing or a progressive atheist murder plot and the congresswoman was just a decoy to pin the wrap on the Tea Party.

I’m just throwing out the BS conspiracies like everyone else.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 3:03:21 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: Jedidah
(Please see my post #31.)
HF
33 posted on 01/09/2011 3:05:27 PM PST by holden
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Just on another thread it mentioned the names of two that had been killed. And the nine-year old Christina. So with Rev. (?) Stoddard that makes four of the six killed that I have heard any mention of.

God Bless their souls.


34 posted on 01/09/2011 3:06:04 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Twinkie

“...if it had been a Muslim imam who lay down his life for his wife...”

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You know the saying about hell and frostbite don’t you?


35 posted on 01/09/2011 3:13:27 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Twinkie

Obama was successful at Inciting Riots that Burned Thousands of Christians Alive in their Christian Churchs
when His Muslim Candidate Who He was Illegally Campaigning For and Both Funding and Advising Lost a Fair and Legitimate
Presidential Election!! So Why Shouldn’t We expect HUSSEIN to pull the same Atrocities Here in Our AMERICA to Get His WAY?


36 posted on 01/09/2011 3:21:46 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I noticed that most of the people killed in the shooting were older folks.


37 posted on 01/09/2011 4:04:30 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: 21twelve
So with Rev. (?) Stoddard...

"Reverend" is not used in churches of Christ, in answer to your question mark.

38 posted on 01/09/2011 4:05:52 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: AppyPappy

That is the extremely liberal, UNITED Church of Christ. There is a huge difference.


39 posted on 01/09/2011 4:07:12 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: smokingfrog
I noticed that most of the people killed in the shooting were older folks.

Too early for the youngsters. It would have to be afternoon to get a decent showing from them.

40 posted on 01/09/2011 4:10:02 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: holden
though I would understand use use the small 'c' in church of Christ would indicate the more conservative branch than those labeling themselves "Churches of Christ", e.g., Disciples of Christ, United Churches of Christ, or God forbid, Obama's flavor, as in Trinity United Church of Christ.

While there is a similarity in the name, the church of Christ has a completely separate history from those other churches. There is no branch that connects them with the UCC, one never splintered off from the other because they were never together in any way.

Trinity United Church of Christ is just one local congregation that is under the United Church of Christ (UCC) umbrella, under their hierarchy. Disciples of Christ has a different origin, but I think I read somewhere that they are sort of merging with the UCC denomination -- could be wrong on that.

The many congregations of the churches of Christ are all completely autonomous from one another, there is no earthly hierarchy above the individual congregation.

41 posted on 01/09/2011 4:10:41 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: smokingfrog

Six people were shot and killed on Saturday, including Arizona’s chief federal trial judge, John McCarthy Roll (63). He is survived by his wife, Maureen, and three sons.

Christina Taylor Green, a 9 year old born on Sept. 11, 2001, and included in the book, “Faces of Hope, Babies Born on 9/11,” was also shot and killed. She was recently elected to her school’s student council board, played baseball and did ballet.

Other released names of those slain include Dorwan Stoddard (76), Dorothy Murray (76), Phyllis Schenk (79), and Gabe Zimmerman (30), who served as Rep. Gifford’s director of community outreach.


I wonder if the fact that she was Jewish had anything to do with the shooting?


42 posted on 01/09/2011 4:15:05 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Carley; onyx; Jim Robinson; All

And the extraordinary braveness of the woman who attempted to grab the killer’s extra magazine.

*****************

Her name is Patricia Maisch and she is brave......also just blamed Republicans for what happened on Fox news just now.


43 posted on 01/09/2011 4:25:28 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Jedidah
You are also mixing politics and religion, which our Savior never did.

lol. another "render unto Caesar" misquote?

44 posted on 01/09/2011 5:14:17 PM PST by naturalized
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To: naturalized

Actually, I wasn’t thinking of that at all, but rather at the misconception of his disciples that he would overcome Roman rule and retake the throne of Israel.

It was a serious comment, not meant to be snarky, so I’m somewhat puzzled by the tone of your reply.


45 posted on 01/09/2011 5:25:11 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: True Republican Patriot

This tragic occurrence gave Obama’s leftist plotters just the ammunition they needed to silence ANY opposition that might crop up against his and his little leftist club’s “plans” for us. I hope this doesn’t affect the Republicans’ plans for repealing “Obamacare” and hope they get back on course after this current thing dies down.


46 posted on 01/09/2011 5:26:14 PM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: savagesusie

the movie The Book Of Eli exposes your point in spades


47 posted on 01/09/2011 5:30:16 PM PST by advertising guy (the PITTSBURGH OBAMAS........crap that's funny)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

FIRST I’ve heard of this is your posting. Thank you.


48 posted on 01/09/2011 5:31:54 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: holden

many were in that area cause of the grocery store, dry cleaners and Circle K......not just to see Gabby


49 posted on 01/09/2011 5:32:15 PM PST by advertising guy (the PITTSBURGH OBAMAS........crap that's funny)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Doesn’t fit the liberal meme. Now, had it been a Muslim imam, it would have been further evidence of the evil conservatives.


50 posted on 01/09/2011 5:34:06 PM PST by comps4spice (Liberalism caused Tucson massacre)
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