Skip to comments.North Vietnamese General Giap Admits Near-Defeat (Repost--and, REMEMBER)
Posted on 07/31/2010 8:36:02 AM PDT by combat_boots
"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it.
But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"
(Excerpt) Read more at americanranger.blogspot.com ...
Walter Cronkite - The one man responsible for convincing Americans the war was lost. I wonder if North Viet Nam gave him a medal for all his efforts on their behalf?
Read the comments... whether Giap said this or not, the gist of it is true and we can thank ‘the most trusted man in America’ for lying to us, among many others.
I did ask the Admin Mod to change out the title to North. Have been busy overnight researching a couple of other things for the forum.
We need to remember the tactic though.
That is a tremendous admission of their General! I remember from the interview with him by an American General and was very impressed with his humbleness.
I lost a very good friend of mine in Vietnam, a Helicopter pilot, for no reason at all! I blamed LBJ and the Congress for the stupid war! We have over 58,000 reminders of the “incident”!
with all do respect to the vets of the current war....and vietnam....we havent had a ‘war’ since people like Curtis Lemay/Patton and the rest ran things and completely destroyed the cities of Berlin, Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
forget the smart bomb technology....we need to carpet bomb our enemys till they beg for peace...we should have layed waste to Afghanistan, Iraq, and lets not forget where the 911 bombers came from.....Egypt and Saudi....
we havent had a real president since Reagan....
The MSM blames the war on Nixon.
LBJ is quietly forgotten.
Yep, they’ve been following the template to the T.
LBJ is quietly forgotten.
As is JFK.
The people returning from WWII were the most destructive leaders this nation has ever known.
No, Giap. You won because I wasn’t in charge.
This is what he actually said: In his own words
The most relevant statement I could find that is actually attributable to General Giap was uttered in a 1989 interview with Morley Safer, as excerpted in The Vietnam War: An Encyclopedia of Quotations by Howard Langer (Greenwood Press, 2005, p. 318):
We paid a high price [during the Tet offensive] but so did you [Americans]... not only in lives and materiel.... Do not forget the war was brought into the living rooms of the American people. ... The most important result of the Tet offensive was it made you de-escalate the bombing, and it brought you to the negotiation table. It was, therefore, a victory....
The war was fought on many fronts. At that time the most important one was American public opinion.
It was a Rat war JFK LBJ and that Turd Truman gets the grand prize he let the French back into Indochina over protests and Letters,one from Ho Chi Mein ,Rats the lot of them.
Of course the deomcrats in congress helped a great deal by refusing to enforce the terms of the cease fire agreement.
I’ve been looking for any statement by Giap on the north losing the war for years. I was able to get a copy of Giap’s book which had no such statement. There’s a journalist Arnaud D’Borchauve (sp) that may have some first hand info. I’d love to get his personal email address.
I’m not sure if that is myth or not. After the Tet Offensive the outlook in the north must have pretty glum seeing as how the VC was gone as an effective force.
Was a liar, a traitor and a communist. IMO, he has the blood of dead American Soldiers dripping from his hands ...
skeeter said: “Read the comments... whether Giap said this or not, the gist of it is true and we can thank the most trusted man in America for lying to us, among many others.”
But if something is fabricated (like this quote) it is false. The fact that “the gist of it is true’ only explains why someone fabricated it.
And it’s a sign of weakness. If the “gist of it” were manifestly true, no one would need to invent quotes to prove it.
I know the story, but a better source than “A friend from the great state of Kentucky sent me the following” might be a good thing.
Can anyone help?
If the fabricated quote were the only evidence you'd be right.
what do you mean by that?
But by all other authoritative sources it was true - we had beaten the crap out of the communists at the same time Walter Cronkite was convincing America we were losing.
The US media has been twisting the truth to suit their warped leftist agenda ever since.
The quote was fabricated. He never said it.
Lying is not a good way to combat “twisting the truth”.
Lying is also a sign of the weakness of one’s position.
When climate scientists are caught falsifying their research they say it’s OK because by all other authoritative sources (the UN’s IPCC) the world is hotter now than ever. But if it the facts were so clear, they could use real statistics to show it.
So, when it comes to lying, here’s a few rules I try follow:
1. Don’t lie and don’t spread lies.
2. If someone makes up a lie to support his position, his position is probably weak. Not necessarily, but probably.
I never really did understand why you directed your comments at me, but they're all true.
I might have clicked on the wrong “post reply” ... I was trying to respond to the person who posted the story. Not the first time I have made that mistake by the way!
And it only took a year for us to straighten that out:)
For me that’s probably a record!
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