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Doofus of the Day: Ben Ehrenreich thinks ending Israel will bring "peace"
Vicious Babushka ^ | Mar. 15, 2009 | Ben Ehrenreich

Posted on 03/15/2009 5:54:49 PM PDT by Alouette

Zionism is the problem

The Zionist ideal of a Jewish state is keeping Israelis and Palestinians from living in peace.

By Ben Ehrenreich

It's hard to imagine now, but in 1944, six years after Kristallnacht, Lessing J. Rosenwald, president of the American Council for Judaism, felt comfortable equating the Zionist ideal of Jewish statehood with "the concept of a racial state -- the Hitlerian concept." For most of the last century, a principled opposition to Zionism was a mainstream stance within American Judaism.

Even after the foundation of Israel, anti-Zionism was not a particularly heretical position. Assimilated Reform Jews like Rosenwald believed that Judaism should remain a matter of religious rather than political allegiance; the ultra-Orthodox saw Jewish statehood as an impious attempt to "push the hand of God"; and Marxist Jews -- my grandparents among them -- tended to see Zionism, and all nationalisms, as a distraction from the more essential struggle between classes.

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This is some really bad crap.
1 posted on 03/15/2009 5:54:49 PM PDT by Alouette
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The Vicious Babushka

2 posted on 03/15/2009 5:55:31 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

I agree. If we killed all the Jews and converted to Islam, we would have peace. Of course we would be praying to Allah 5 times a day and women would be treated like animals and have to be covered from head to toe, but hey, it is peace.


3 posted on 03/15/2009 6:02:48 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Alouette

Ending Israel will bring Armageddon.


4 posted on 03/15/2009 6:10:30 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Always Right
If we killed all the Jews and converted to Islam, we would have peace.

Heyyyy!!! Maybe you could help me with something.

I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy and everything crazy going on in my life, so I called Lifeline... Got a freakin’ call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal. They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck...

5 posted on 03/15/2009 6:22:55 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: Gaffer
Ending Israel will bring Armageddon.

The attampt to end Israel will bring Armageddon; Israel will triumph.

6 posted on 03/15/2009 6:23:51 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
The attampt attempt to end Israel
7 posted on 03/15/2009 6:24:53 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Always Right
If Muslims spent the same amount of money that is spent trying killing Israels, Palestinians would be the envy of the world.

Palestinians suffer as a result of Islam, not Judaism.

8 posted on 03/15/2009 6:32:38 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: bigheadfred
I told them I was suicidal. They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck...

I should not be laughing, but I am.

9 posted on 03/15/2009 6:34:18 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: highpockets

Good thing I didn’t call YOU!!! :-)

My point is that anyone who has studied Islam will know that there is no such thing as Peace with them. They slaughter their own like there is no tomorrow.


10 posted on 03/15/2009 6:43:39 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: bigheadfred

Agreed.


11 posted on 03/15/2009 6:45:29 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: Always Right

If we did that, then it would be Sunnis versus Shiites. After that, it would be Sunnis versus women. And then all of humanity would become extinct.


12 posted on 03/15/2009 7:01:20 PM PDT by Invisible Ninja (Welcome to the Parallel Universe, where good is evil and evil is good.)
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To: JimRed
עם ישראל חי
13 posted on 03/15/2009 7:04:44 PM PDT by Invisible Ninja (Welcome to the Parallel Universe, where good is evil and evil is good.)
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To: Alouette
Marxist Jews -- my grandparents among them -- tended to see Zionism, and all nationalisms, as a distraction from the more essential struggle between classes.

Pure unadulterated hooey. Marxists have always been inconsistent about nation and class. Eg, they branded Zionism "bourgeois nationalism" but saw no problem with Irish nationalism, Arab nationalism, Black nationalism, and even French Quebec nationalism. Furthermore, between the mystical "indigenous peoples" and the new "oppressed" (homosexuals, women susceptible to pregnancy, etc.) the "class struggle" has been thrown on the ash keep of history. Shoot, the only "class struggle" you'll find nowadays is the one that's part of Strasserism.

This is some really bad crap.

You ain't kiddin'. Somebody got into the "brown acid!"

14 posted on 03/15/2009 7:43:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hachodesh hazeh lakhem ro'sh chodashim; ri'shon hu' lakhem lechodshey hashanah.)
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To: bigheadfred
Heyyyy!!! Maybe you could help me with something.

I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy and everything crazy going on in my life, so I called Lifeline... Got a freakin’ call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal. They got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck...

Lol! That was bad!

15 posted on 03/15/2009 7:47:16 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hachodesh hazeh lakhem ro'sh chodashim; ri'shon hu' lakhem lechodshey hashanah.)
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To: Always Right

If the Palestinians would disarm, there would be peace, more or less. If the Israelis would disarm, there would be peace, but only after the Pali-boys had killed all the Jews.


16 posted on 03/15/2009 8:29:27 PM PDT by flowerplough (52% of us with incomes over $200k voted for Obama and 60% of those earning under $30K did, too.)
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To: Always Right
I agree. If we killed all the Jews and converted to Islam, we would have peace. Of course we would be praying to Allah 5 times a day and women would be treated like animals and have to be covered from head to toe, but hey, it is peace.

Not even so sure about that. Violence is the only language Islamonazis understand. If Jews like Ben Ehrenreich had their way and allowed jihadis to exterminate his own people, how long do you think it would be before they turned their wrath upon Christians, Hindus, secularists, rival Muslims and eventually even their own families?

17 posted on 03/15/2009 8:52:39 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Alouette

I do believe he has shi’ite for brains...


18 posted on 03/15/2009 10:18:45 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL! but TROP does not have a sense of humor!


19 posted on 03/15/2009 10:21:07 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette

Seems like a big part of his problem is that his only connection to his Jewishness is as some kind of ethnicity or a secular philosophy. He needs Judaism in his life.


20 posted on 03/15/2009 11:59:41 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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