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U.S. Senators Oath of Office(Violated?)
stanley2002 ^ | 07-27-2007 | The Robb7

Posted on 06/27/2007 5:50:51 AM PDT by TheRobb7

I Googled the phrase "oath of Senators" and came across this. It seems that Our Senators have violated their oath with their insistence on passing the Amnesty Bill.

In the 1860s, during the Civil War, legislators were trying to root out traitors. They wanted a more explicit oath. They had the oath of office rewritten. Here is the oath of office taken by every U.S. Senator since that time.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: border; congress; immigration; reform
Freeper Comments are welcome as always.
1 posted on 06/27/2007 5:50:56 AM PDT by TheRobb7
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To: TheRobb7; jellybean; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; pitbully; ..

Soliciting-your-opinion-Ping


2 posted on 06/27/2007 5:51:38 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: TheRobb7

Could you be more specific? Which part are they violating?


3 posted on 06/27/2007 5:52:35 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: HaveHadEnough

“that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter”

The fact that they have gone to great lengths to IGNORE their constituents on the Amnesty bill I think is not a faithful discharge of their duties.


4 posted on 06/27/2007 5:56:30 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: TheRobb7

This is a Republic, not a democracy. It is not one of their duties to do what their constituents want them to do. Their constituents elected them to exercise independent judgment, and if their constituents dislike the judgment that they have exercised, they can vote them out of office.


5 posted on 06/27/2007 6:01:20 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: TheRobb7

There were no “traitors” after the war for southern independence.

Now, I agree with you but they are hurting the country through their actions right now, but please don’t justify your position by calling my ancestors traitors.


6 posted on 06/27/2007 6:03:53 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: HaveHadEnough
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic

Okay, well then how about THIS part?
7 posted on 06/27/2007 6:05:48 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: Kerretarded

Nope, that won’t work either.


8 posted on 06/27/2007 6:11:46 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: AzaleaCity5691

“don’t justify your position by calling my ancestors traitors.”

Huh?


9 posted on 06/27/2007 6:12:07 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: TheRobb7

You said “In the 1860’s, during the Civil War, Senators were trying to root out traitors”

Northern authorities considered Southerners who were fighting for independence as “traitors”, even though the entire nation had done the same thing against the British 80 years before. When you make the definitive statement that the Senate took actions in the 1860’s to root out traitors, you imply by definition that southerners were traitors. You know, during reconstruction, most of my ancestors lost their right to vote, because reconstruction law said that any former confederate officer that had a certain amount of financial wherewithall, was to be prohibited from voting. Now, we weren’t finanically wiped out, but alot of people were, and they added insult to injury by taking away the franchise.

Many of our regions richest people ended up being homeless paupers by 1880, and all because northerners viewed us as “traitors” I’m just trying to bring up a point, it’s never a good idea to use the word “traitor” when talking about that period of time, cause it’s a sensitive subject and doing so angers alot of us.


10 posted on 06/27/2007 6:17:57 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: TheRobb7
The duties of the members of Congress chiefly fall into the law making field of powers. The duties of the President fall into the enforcement of the laws as enacted.

If anyone has fallen down on the duties of office in the area of immigration, it has been our Presidents starting with Reagan and following on with GHWB, Clinton, and GWB whose duty it was to enforce existing law.

If the Congress sees a portion of government not working, law making and funding are their only remedies with large impact. That they came up with this corrupt and misguided effort is an extension of executive failure.

While my preference is no innovative wholesale replacement of immigration legislation, simply waiting for the executive to act has proven futile.

11 posted on 06/27/2007 6:18:30 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

You said “In the 1860’s, during the Civil War, Senators were trying to root out traitors”

Wrong. If you clicked the link in the original post, you would have found that that text is on the website that I gleaned this information from.

It was to illustrate that the oath has gone from a one-line sentence to a much deeper and involoved solemn vow.

If it is true that Big Business is driving the Anmesty Bill, and that they are desiring a “North AMerican Union”, then the Senators driving this legislation are assisting (or acting as useful idiots) “domestic enemies” in the tearing of our social fabric, eliminating our middle class and eroding American values.


12 posted on 06/27/2007 6:42:20 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: HaveHadEnough

“if their constituents dislike the judgment that they have exercised, they can vote them out of office.”

....and we will....landslide.


13 posted on 06/27/2007 6:44:14 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: HaveHadEnough
Nope, that won’t work either.

Wow. If you think that our Congressmen have done a good job protecting our Constitution or us from ALL enemies, foreign or domestic, you are one delusional person. Have you read Ted Kennedy's quotes from 1986 after the LAST Amnesty Bill was passed?

From Article IV, Section 3 and 4 of the Constitution:

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.

Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

14 posted on 06/27/2007 7:08:24 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: TheRobb7

...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...

Isn't it obvious that certain legislators don't consider illegal aliens our enemies, but rather their soon-to-be constituents?

15 posted on 06/27/2007 7:48:28 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

Spot on, my FRiend.


16 posted on 06/27/2007 8:18:43 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The welfare state needs a new customer base--ILLEGAL aliens!)
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To: TheRobb7

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


17 posted on 06/28/2007 5:03:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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