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It’s Basically Just Immoral To Be Rich
Current Affairs ^ | March 30, 2017 | A.Q. Smith

Posted on 04/09/2017 10:27:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A reminder that people who possess great wealth in a time of poverty are directly causing that poverty…

Here is a simple statement of principle that doesn’t get repeated enough: if you possess billions of dollars, in a world where many people struggle because they do not have much money, you are an immoral person. The same is true if you possess hundreds of millions of dollars, or even millions of dollars. Being extremely wealthy is impossible to justify in a world containing deprivation.

Even though there is a lot of public discussion about inequality, there seems to be far less talk about just how patently shameful it is to be rich. After all, there are plenty of people on this earth who die—or who watch their loved ones die—because they cannot afford to pay for medical care. There are elderly people who become homeless because they cannot afford rent. There are children living on streets and in cars, there are mothers who can’t afford diapers for their babies. All of this is beyond dispute. And all of it could be ameliorated if people who had lots of money simply gave those other people their money. It’s therefore deeply shameful to be rich. It’s not a morally defensible thing to be.

To take a U.S. example: white families in America have 16 times as much wealth on average as black families. This is indisputably because of slavery, which was very recent (there are people alive today who met people who were once slaves). Larry Ellison of Oracle could put his $55 billion in a fund that could be used to just give houses to black families, not quite as direct “reparations” but simply as a means of addressing the fact that the average white family has a house while the average black family does not. But instead of doing this, Larry Ellison bought the island of Lanai. (It’s kind of extraordinary that a single human being can just own the sixth-largest Hawaiian island, but that’s what concentrated wealth leads to.) Because every dollar you have is a dollar you’re not giving to somebody else, the decision to retain wealth is a decision to deprive others.

Note that this is a slightly different point than the usual ones made about rich people. For example, it is sometimes claimed that CEOs get paid too much, or that the super-wealthy do not pay enough in taxes. My claim has nothing to do with either of these debates. You can hold my position and simultaneously believe that CEOs should get paid however much a company decides to pay them, and that taxes are a tyrannical form of legalized theft. What I am arguing about is not the question of how much people should be given, but the morality of their retaining it after it is given to them.

Many times, defenses of the accumulation of great wealth depend on justifications for the initial acquisition of that wealth. The libertarian-ish philosopher Robert Nozick gave a well-known hypothetical that is used to challenge claims that wealthy people did not deserve their wealth: suppose millions of people enjoy watching Wilt Chamberlain play basketball. And suppose, Nozick wrote, that each of these people would happily give Wilt Chamberlain 25 cents for the privilege of watching him play basketball. And suppose that through the process of people paying Wilt Chamberlain, he ended up with millions of dollars, while each of his audience members had (willingly) sacrificed a quarter. Even though Wilt Chamberlain is now far richer than anyone else in the society, would anyone say that his acquisition of wealth was unjust?

Libertarians use this example to rebut attempts to say that the rich do not deserve their wealth. After all, they say, the process by which those rich people attained their wealth is totally consensual. We’d have to be crazy Stalinists to believe that I shouldn’t have the right to pay you a quarter to watch you play basketball. Why, look at Mark Zuckerberg. Nobody has to use Facebook. He is rich because people like the product he came up with. Clearly, his wealth is the product of his own labor, and nobody should deprive him of it. People on the right often defend wealth along these lines. I earned it, therefore it’s not unfair for me to have it.

But there is a separate question that this defense ignores: regardless of whether you have earned it, to what degree are you morally permitted to retain it? The question of getting and the question of keeping are distinct. As a parallel: if I come into possession of an EpiPen, and I encounter a child experiencing a severe allergic reaction, the question of whether I am obligated to inject the child is distinguishable from the question of whether I obtained the pen legitimately. It’s important to be clear about these distinctions, because we might answer questions about systems differently than we answer questions about individual behavior. (“I don’t hate capitalism, I just hate rich people” is a perfectly legitimate and consistent perspective.)

I therefore think there is a sort of deflection that goes on with defenses of wealth. If we find it appalling that there are so many rich people in a time of need, we are asked to consider questions of acquisition rather than questions of retention. The retention question, after all, is much harder for a wealthy person to answer. It’s one thing to argue that you got rich legitimately. It’s another to explain why you feel justified in spending your wealth upon houses and sculptures rather than helping some struggling people pay their rent or paying off a bunch of student loans or saving thousands of people from dying of malaria. There may be nothing unseemly about the process by which a basketball player earns his millions (we can debate this). But there’s certainly something unseemly about having those millions.

One of the reasons wealthy people rarely have to defend their choices is that “shaming the rich” is not really compatible with any of the predominating political perspectives. People on the right obviously believe that having piles of wealth is fine. Centrist Democrats can’t attack rich people for being rich because they’re increasingly a party for rich people. And socialists (this is the interesting case) tend to believe that questions about the morality of having wealth are relatively unimportant, because they are far more interested in how the state divides up wealth than in what individuals choose to do with it. As G.A. Cohen points out in If You’re an Egalitarian, How Come You’re So Rich?, Marxists have been concerned with eliminating capitalism generally, which has kept them from thinking about questions of the justice of people’s personal choices. After all, if the problem of inequality is systemic, and rich people do not really make choices but pursue their class interests, then asking whether it is moral for wealthy people to retain their wealth is both irrelevant (because individual decisions don’t affect the systemic problem) and incoherent (because the idea of a moral or immoral capitalist makes no sense in the Marxist framework). In fact, there is a certain leftist argument that giving away wealth in the form of charity is actually bad, because it allows capitalism to look superficially generous without actually altering the balance of power in the society. “The worst slave owners were those who were kind to their slaves, because they prevented the core of the system from being realized by those who suffered from it,” as Oscar Wilde ludicrously put it. (In their book Blueprints for a Sparkling Tomorrow, Nimni and Robinson parody this perspective by portraying two leftist academics who insist on being rude to servers in restaurants, on the grounds that being polite to them obscures the true brutality of class relations.)

But I think it is a mistake to avoid inquiring into the moral justifications for wealth. This is because I think individual decisions do matter, because if I am an extremely wealthy man I could be helping a lot of people who I am choosing not to help. And for those people, at least, it makes a difference when a billionaire decides to retain their wealth rather than rid themselves of it.

Of course, when you start talking about whether it is moral to be rich, you end up heading down some difficult logical paths. If I am obligated to use my wealth to help people, am I not obligated to keep doing so until I am myself a pauper? Surely this obligation attaches to anyone who consumes luxuries they do not need, or who has some savings that they are not spending on malaria treatment for children. But the central point I want to make here is that the moral duty becomes greater the more wealth you have. If you end up with a $50,000 a year or $100,000 a year salary, we can debate what amount you should spend on helping other people. But if you earn $250,000 or 1 million, it’s quite clear that the bulk of your income should be given away. You can live very comfortably on $100,000 or so and have luxury and indulgence, so anything beyond is almost indisputably indefensible. And the super-rich, the infamous “millionaires and billionaires”, are constantly squandering resources that could be used to create wonderful and humane things. If you’re a billionaire, you could literally open a hospital and make it free. You could buy up a bunch of abandoned Baltimore rowhouses, do them up, and give them to families. You could help make sure no child ever had to go without lunch.

We can define something like a “maximum moral income” beyond which it’s obviously inexcusable not to give away all of your money. It might be 5o thousand. Call it 100, though. Per person. With an additional 50 allowed per child. This means two parents with a child can still earn $250,000! That’s so much money. And you can keep it. But everyone who earns anything beyond it is obligated to give the excess away in its entirety. The refusal to do so means intentionally allowing others to suffer, a statement which is true regardless of whether you “earned” or “deserved” the income you were originally given. (Personally, I think the maximum moral income is probably much lower, but let’s just set it here so that everyone can agree on it. I do tend to think that moral requirements should be attainable in practice, and a $30k threshold would actually require people experience some deprivation whereas a $100k threshold indisputably still leaves you with an incredibly comfortable lifestyle better than almost any other had by anyone in history.)

Of course, wealthy people do give away money, but so often in piecemeal and self-interested and foolish ways. They’ll donate to colleges with huge endowments to get needless buildings built and named after them. David Geffen will pay to open a school for the children of wealthy university faculty, and somehow be praised for it. Mark Zuckerberg will squander millions of dollars trying to fix Newark’s schools by hiring $1000-a-day-consultants. Brad Pitt will try to build homes for Katrina victims in New Orleans, but will insist that they’re architecturally cutting-edge and funky looking, instead of just trying to make as many simple houses as possible. Just as the rich can’t be trusted to spend their money well generally, they’re colossally terrible at giving it away. This is because so much is about self-aggrandizement, and “philanthropy” is far more about the donor than the donee. Furthermore, if you’re a multi-billionaire, giving away $1 billion is morally meaningless. If you’ve got $3 billion, and you give away 1, you’re still incredibly wealthy, and thus still harming many people through your retention of wealth. You have to get rid of all of it, beyond the maximum moral income.

The central point, however, is this: it is not justifiable to retain vast wealth. This is because that wealth has the potential to help people who are suffering, and by not helping them you are letting them suffer. It does not make a difference whether you earned the vast wealth. The point is that you have it. And whether or not we should raise the tax rates, or cap CEO pay, or rearrange the economic system, we should all be able to acknowledge, before we discuss anything else, that it is immoral to be rich. That much is clear. ♦


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Will this be on the DNC platform in 2020?
1 posted on 04/09/2017 10:27:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An idiot speaks


2 posted on 04/09/2017 10:30:16 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And behold one came and said to him: Good master, what good shall I do that I may have life everlasting? Who said to him: Why asketh thou me concerning good? One is good, God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He said to him: Which? And Jesus said: Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness. Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The young man saith to him: All these I have kept from my youth, what is yet wanting to me? Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me. And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions. Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. - Matthew 19:23-24 (cf Mark 10:17-31)



3 posted on 04/09/2017 10:35:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you live in America, you are rich by the worlds standards. One does not make the rest of the world rich by making America poor any more than one fixes everyone elses broken cars by destroying your working one.

One copies success, and America became wealthy by being a Godly Christian Nation. But it seems the Demonrats are determined to destroy our car, and our Nation.

Funny thing is that they don’t spend any time trying to teach others, just destroy us.


4 posted on 04/09/2017 10:40:53 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The thing is that compared to the people in actual poverty this guy has GREAT wealth and is so, by his own standards, immoral.

The greatest wealth gap is not between the guy who has a hundred dollars and the guy who has a billion, but between the guy who has a biscuit and the guy who has none.

5 posted on 04/09/2017 10:41:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its only immoral for leftist to be rich because they steal to achieve wealth


6 posted on 04/09/2017 10:41:19 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Writer obviously never listened to Ten Years After.


7 posted on 04/09/2017 10:41:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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Someone needs to ask Hidabeast if she is immoral- since she and Bilabeast are most definitely Rich


8 posted on 04/09/2017 10:44:15 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: nickcarraway

The point of that story is not that wealth is immoral.


9 posted on 04/09/2017 10:44:45 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a maroon!


10 posted on 04/09/2017 10:45:06 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (n1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men d)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A reminder that people who possess great wealth in a time of poverty are directly causing that poverty”

Non Sequitur.

It does not follow. There is no such cause and effect - the premise is absolutely divorced from objectivity.

If I work a second job and become richer, it does not CAUSE someone else to be poorer - actually there will likely be added benefits to others, as I spend or invest more.


11 posted on 04/09/2017 10:46:19 PM PDT by BeauBo
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white families in America have 16 times as much wealth on average as black families...

Really!!??

My wife’s been holding out on me. :)

Have to search her email tomorrow!


12 posted on 04/09/2017 10:46:37 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this entire article satire? ‘Cuz what’s mine is mine. Don’t like it? You are more than welcome to come and try to take it.


13 posted on 04/09/2017 10:53:01 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A fool thinks it is better to make money doing nothing and they find out their reward when they follow through on their thinking with theft.


14 posted on 04/09/2017 10:54:24 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: goodnesswins
Reminds me of the 60's song that never makes the conclusion:

Tax the rich
Feed the poor
til there are no rich no more
(total non-sequitor alert)I'd love to turn you on...
(it ought to be)and then the poor will starve anyway...

Don't give em a fish. Teach them to fish. If they refuse to learn...oh well, let em starve.

15 posted on 04/09/2017 10:57:00 PM PDT by lafroste (Look at my profile page. Thanks.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Francisco's "money speech" from Atlas Shrugged.
16 posted on 04/09/2017 10:59:02 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A lie the rich tell the poor.


17 posted on 04/09/2017 11:01:28 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are an effin lunatic.

You are putting a cap on earnings as some stupid moral imperative.

You can the life of luxury on $100,000? Uhmmmm....no you can’t and eventually you will to raise the $100,000 cap as the cost for goods, services and property continues to rise.

Further, you will remove the incentive for acquisition and reduce man to somewhere between socialism and law of the jungle, since money has a finite supply and everyone is judged to have their fair share as determined by someone else.

Reducing incentive to acquire means there is little reason to create a product or service that competes with others.

Here you want to think of AT&T before 1984. One company, monopoly rates and essentially zero innovation as there’s no competitors there is no reason to innovate.

Besides, you bitch about the too 20% and how much they keep of the fruit of their reward.

Like a Gardner who plants seeds in the spring and harvests in the fall.

Who then prepare that harvest selling a portion of it, bartering a portion and even storing so much extra he couldn’t possibly eat the quantity in a year but, he dies so as a means of conserving something of value he could sell at a higher price if the market will pay or barter for a tire and still have saved extra in the event of a catastrophe.

If there is no incentive to get wealthy then feel free to resurrect the the original concept of socialism, the Mayflower Compact.

“From each according to his work, to each according to his need “

BTW, 74% of America doesn’t pay federal income tax.

So either you are arguing everyone should fed tax or you don’t know what you are talking about and have no concept of wealth distribution except you would like to redistribute it “more fairly”


18 posted on 04/09/2017 11:03:05 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If we find it appalling that there are so many rich people in a time of need, we are asked to consider questions of acquisition rather than questions of retention. The retention question, after all, is much harder for a wealthy person to answer.

If we grant arguendo that this proposition is true, it still leads nowhere, because the question of acquisition on the part of the person who did not earn the money is far more problematic. By what moral imperative are those who lack things entitled to take from those don't lack?

The answer, in both the Judeo-Christian worldview and the Objectivist worldview (which are worlds apart) is, oddly, the same: the man lacking means has no moral claim on the man having them, in fact in the more "charitable" worldview he is explicitly COMMANDED that he may not covet what another possesses.

19 posted on 04/09/2017 11:09:29 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...to what degree are you allowed to keep it...?” [your property aka money]

At least this statist is consistent in his thought. If your property is not your property, the only question is how much can you get to keep and who gets to decide?


20 posted on 04/09/2017 11:12:07 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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