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What Would It Take to Stop the Ice Raids? (New Left-wing strategy?)
It's Going Down ^ | February 17, 2017

Posted on 02/19/2017 2:28:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Over the past week, nearly 700 people have been rounded up in a wave of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) sweeps across the US. In response, people have blockaded roads and ICE vans and organized massive demonstrations. But what would it take to stop the raids altogether?

The Assault

In some parts of the US, the ICE assault involved brutal militarized raids in which officers smashed windows and set off flashbang grenades inside residential homes. In other places, everything happened so quietly as to go virtually unnoticed: here a bureaucratic change in the status of a prisoner, there the transfer into indefinite detention of an arrestee who was about to be released.

The raids come on the heels of a set of executive orders from the Trump administration threatening millions of people across the United States. These orders aim to deputize police as immigration officials, to build up massive prison infrastructure, and to target entire communities for harassment, detention, and deportation. The idea is clearly to give police and government officials sweeping powers to terrorize an entire community.

Debate has centered on whether these raids represent Trump’s new program or the continuation of ICE policy under Obama. Obama’s administration deported 2.7 million people, more than the US deported throughout the entire 20th century. David Ward, the Director of the National Association of Former Border Patrol Agents, has stated that the current wave of raids were “probably planned at least three or four months ago, under the Obama administration, and finally launched under the Trump administration.”

Yet the Trump administration intends to open a new chapter in the criminalization of immigrants. Trump has appointed a white nationalist from the anti-immigrant group FAIR to head US Customs and Border Protection. The white nationalist wing of the regime, represented by Steve Bannon, intends to follow through on Trump’s campaign promises to build a billion-dollar wall along the Mexican border and carry out mass deportations.

The Obama administration took a neoliberal approach to mass deportations, using them to disrupt immigrant labor organizing while leaving enough undocumented people in the country to provide a cheap labor force to boost corporate profits. The Trump administration is taking a nationalist approach, gambling that it is more important for white people and US citizens to preserve their comparative status relative to people of color and non-citizens than it is preserve the functioning of the economy. An administration that is prepared to risk economic collapse to carry out its scapegoating is prepared to put up with a little outcry and protest as well.

The Response

Ever since the election, people have been organizing emergency hotlines, rapid response networks, and know-your-rights trainings. As soon as the raids took place, tens of thousands of people took to the streets in Baltimore and Milwaukee, while confrontational protesters blocked a freeway onramp in Los Angeles. In Austin and Phoenix, people shut down streets and blocked ICE vans. On Thursday, February 16, thousands of people participated in massive school walkouts, marches, and demonstrations against the raids under the banner #DayWithoutImmigrants.

All of these actions are important. Together, they create an atmosphere of opposition to Trump’s agenda and a space in which his opponents can find each other. Yet a largely symbolic replay of the demonstrations of May Day 2006 (which were disruptive, confrontational, and included massive walkouts, wildcat strikes, and marches; successfully defeating HR-4437) will not suffice to halt the raids and deportations. The Trump administration is not concerned about expressions of disapproval; protests only make him more popular with his support base. It is necessary to move from protest to resistance.

Likewise, blocking ICE vans might interrupt a deportation or two, but they are not going to stop the regime. Certainly, these efforts are disruptive and set a precedent for responding immediately; they demonstrate considerable courage, and they inspire courage as well. But in most cases, they will not be quick enough or forceful enough to save the people who are being wrested from their families.

Applying the logic that made the protests against the Muslim Ban so effective, we see that what is lacking is a widely accessible point of intervention that provides direct leverage on the infrastructure with which these raids are being carried out. People need a pressure point, a place that they can converge to go on the offensive.

But what might that pressure point be? There are several possibilities. ICE maintains offices all around the United States. It is similarly easy to find the detention facilities they utilize. If word got out that protesters were massing around these and interfering with their operations, a great number of people around the country would likely follow suit. If this spread far enough, it could create a political crisis within the state.

Mind you, this is not an endorsement of any particular strategy. Many people surely consider it perfectly legitimate to sit on their hands while millions are rounded up and deported or imprisoned. That likely includes many good liberals who did not object to this under Obama but will be pleased with themselves for having registered their dissent under Trump. “First they came for the immigrants…”

The point is simply that—to paraphrase Utah Phillips—our neighbors and coworkers are not vanishing, they are being disappeared, and the institutions responsible for this have names and addresses.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If… if… We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more—we had no awareness of the real situation… We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” –Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; dhs; ice; illegals; immigration; obama; trump
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1 posted on 02/19/2017 2:28:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How ironic that these idiots quote from the Gulag Archipelago at the end.

George Soros and obozo seem to have been planning this for quite some time


2 posted on 02/19/2017 2:40:28 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
—our neighbors and coworkers are not vanishing, they are being disappeared, and the institutions responsible for this have names and addresses.

This, coupled with the paragraph following, leads me to think that what they're planning is to go after ICE officers personally.

3 posted on 02/19/2017 2:48:31 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
it is more important for white people and US citizens to preserve their comparative status relative to people of color and non-citizens

I guess the citizen people of color will have something to say about that.

As for the "non-citizens" take out the Green card holders and legal visa holders then the rest have a status as illegal aliens.

4 posted on 02/19/2017 2:49:43 AM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In some parts of the US, the ICE assault involved brutal militarized raids in which officers smashed windows and set off flashbang grenades inside residential homes

Only to the ones that needed it, such as MS-13. Little Juan and Maria were not flashbanged while getting ready for kindergarten. Expect the (((Soros))) funded groups to try something stupid though.

5 posted on 02/19/2017 2:53:52 AM PST by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Yup.

I took the time to go the web site. These guys are a combination of anarchist and communist agitation. If you want to know what’s coming go back and reread what happened leading up to the Russian Revolution.

We need to be ever vigilant for if we don’t succeed, this won’t end well


6 posted on 02/19/2017 2:53:52 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>Trump has appointed a white nationalist from the anti-immigrant group FAIR to head US Customs and Border Protection.

Realize when you see a Leftist screed using the term “white nationalist” or “white supremacist”, this is almost invariably someone without an argument yelling RACIST! in an attempt to end rational debate on a point they cannot win and to delegitimize their target in an intellectually dishonest way as someone who should not be taken seriously.

These Cultural Marxists need to be called explicitly called out on this every time it happens.


7 posted on 02/19/2017 3:01:27 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let there be no doubt the revolution has begun.

There minds are so perverted, they dare to compare illegal immigration with the Gulag of the Soviet Union.

Mind boggling.

8 posted on 02/19/2017 3:16:09 AM PST by saywhatagain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet the Trump administration intends to open a new chapter in the criminalization of immigrants


When you start with a lie, nothing else is believable.

1. The laws that the Trump administration is enforcing are already on the books. All Trump has done so far is to instruct those responsible to follow the law.

2. The use of the term “immigrant” is a lie. The people being arrested are illegal aliens, that is, they enter this country without permission, a crime.

3. So they committed a crime and so Trump is not criminalizing anything, their act in entering the country makes them criminals.


9 posted on 02/19/2017 3:19:40 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: saywhatagain

Know thy enemy:

It’s Going Down is a revolutionary media platform from anarchist, anti-fascist and anti-capitalist movements. We are a network of friends and comrades across so-called North America, who seek to provide news and analysis of when it goes down: riots, strikes, sabotage, occupations, expropriations, rebellion, revolt, insurrection, whether together or alone – we support liberatory revolt. We are a news website and not an organization who seek to uplift and build capacity for a wide range of social struggles, movements, and revolutionary groups.


10 posted on 02/19/2017 3:23:16 AM PST by saywhatagain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Their greatest concern in planning their activities is spending a few hours in jail before making bail, and the remote possibility of a fine (which they wouldn’t pay anyway).

When they have to worry about snipers, it will be different.


11 posted on 02/19/2017 3:26:38 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Nifster

“Intellectual Masturbation” sums that piece up pretty well.


12 posted on 02/19/2017 3:44:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SauronOfMordor

The people that work at this ‘organization’ have names and addresses too..


13 posted on 02/19/2017 3:49:52 AM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First! Th)
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To: saywhatagain
There minds are so perverted, they dare to compare illegal immigration with the Gulag of the Soviet Union.

Do not be deceived by this. Their intent is to create gulags here and "disappear" people who stand against their agenda. They describe us with the terminology of the violent institutionalized left as a means to try to divert attention away from their true goals and ideology.

Have no doubt: these leftist revolutionaries would be very happy to line people up along a pit and shoot them. In fact, they are dreaming of such a day.

In the pursuit of their goals, illegal aliens are just tools. Once their utility is gone, the leftist revolutionaries will discard them just as they discard anyone who does not advance their goal of absolute power.

14 posted on 02/19/2017 3:51:03 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two words: Elian Gonzales.

Where were these complainers then? Oh, that's right: A Democrat was President then, so it didn't matter.

15 posted on 02/19/2017 4:24:15 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mind you, this is not an endorsement of any particular strategy.

The underlying message of this weak disclaimer is "I'm not advocating insurrection, sedition, or obstruction of justice. I'm just sayin'. . . "

16 posted on 02/19/2017 4:32:17 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A clean Nation with no hotbeds of illegal invaders would be a good way to stop the raids/deportations.


17 posted on 02/19/2017 4:43:25 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Except of course these are the anarchists who put masks over their faces and hurt people. These are the people throwing full water bottles, beating people, destroying buildings....for them it is not an intellectual exercise


18 posted on 02/19/2017 4:50:07 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What would it take?

For the invaders to leave...


19 posted on 02/19/2017 4:54:30 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Nifster
We need to be ever vigilant for if we don’t succeed, this won’t end well

Whether or not this ends well, I expect it to get ugly in the middle. When we have to respond to violence, as citizens and not just a government response, our goal should be a permanent solution to the problems posed by treason and by Ctrl-Left violence. Unfortunately, our goal should also be to address problems without providing useful video for communist propaganda, and that second goal is often in conflict with the first goal.

20 posted on 02/19/2017 5:25:22 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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