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Lies My Teacher Told Me: The True History of the War for Southern Independence
http://www.abbevilleinstitute.org ^ | July 22, 2014 | Clyde Wilson

Posted on 05/12/2015 3:00:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

We Sons of Confederate Veterans are charged with preserving the good name of the Confederate soldier. The world, for the most part, has acknowledged what Gen. R. E. Lee described in his farewell address as the “valour and devotion” and “unsurpassed courage and fortitude” of the Confederate soldier. The Stephen D. Lee Institute program is dedicated to that part of our duty that charges us not only to honour the Confederate soldier but “to vindicate the cause for which he fought.” We are here to make the case not only for the Confederate soldier but for his cause. It is useless to proclaim the courage, skill, and sacrifice of the Confederate soldier while permitting him to be guilty of a bad cause.

Although their cause was lost it was a good cause and still has a lot to teach the world today.

In this age of Political Correctness there has never been a greater need and greater opportunity to refresh our understanding of what happened in America in the years 1861–1865 and start defending our Southern forebears as strongly as they ought to be defended. There is plenty of true history available to us. It is our job to make it known.

All the institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern institutions and leaders, are now doing their best to separate the Confederacy off from the rest of American history and push it into one dark little corner labeled “ Slavery and Treason.” Being taught at every level of the educational system is the official party line that everything good that we or anyone believe about our Confederate ancestors is a myth, and by myth they mean a pack of lies that Southerners thought up to excuse their evil deeds and defeat.

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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Nor mellow with age...


461 posted on 08/01/2015 10:59:10 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa

“Just forget about the slavery thing.”

Only to a liberal idiot the South had slavery and the North was as innocent and pure as the wind driven snow.


462 posted on 08/01/2015 11:17:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: jmacusa

“I mean that thing the South went to war to preserve. “

That assumes the North went to war to end slavery, and they didn’t. Not very bright to try that angle.


463 posted on 08/01/2015 11:18:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

I’m not a liberal you toad. The North didn’t go to war to end slavery. It went to war to preserve the Union and won. The South went to war to preserve slavery and lost everything.


464 posted on 08/01/2015 5:02:29 PM PDT by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

“I’m not a liberal you toad.”

You have shown by your posts a hatred of anything southern. Such bias is extremely liberal as it is nothing but a stereotypical hatred demonstrated by liberals, yankee liberals at that.


465 posted on 08/01/2015 5:17:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: jmacusa

“It went to war to preserve the Union and won.”

Typical liberal slant, but untrue.


466 posted on 08/01/2015 5:17:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable – a most sacred right – a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of their territory as they inhabit.-—Abe Lincoln


467 posted on 08/02/2015 7:04:50 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rockrr

Shutup. You bring nothing but snark so take your snark and go back to your Caitlyn Jenner threads.


468 posted on 08/02/2015 7:07:07 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

Yep - just like a fart in an elevator, everyone knows that pokie is back.


469 posted on 08/02/2015 8:15:07 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: cowboyway
Abraham Lincoln was referring to the God-given right of Man to rise up against tyranny. In order to do so there must, 1. exist a state of tyranny (which most assuredly did not exist in 1860), and 2. possess the wherewithal (which the south did not).

Having a "right to rebel" does not suppress or negate others from possessing an equal or superior right to defend against that rebellion.

470 posted on 08/02/2015 8:21:44 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
Abraham Lincoln was referring to the God-given right of Man to rise up against tyranny. In order to do so there must, 1. exist a state of tyranny (which most assuredly did not exist in 1860), and 2. possess the wherewithal (which the south did not)

Those are your words, not Lincoln's. Lincoln didn't say anything about tyranny being a prerequisite to forming a new government. He said, "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government and form a new one that suits them better."

He further stated, "Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of their territory as they inhabit."

In addition, your brazen attempt at revisionism falls flat on it's face. The election of Lincoln in 1860 insured that 1) a tyrant would takeover the government and 2) the South possessed all the wherewithal they needed to form their own government, which is a historical fact. At least until the day when you revisionists are completely successful in eliminating all vestiges of The Confederate States of America.

Having a "right to rebel" does not suppress or negate others from possessing an equal or superior right to defend against that rebellion.

Lincoln's government was not on the defensive since Southern secession clearly did not have as a goal to abolish the yankee government. If the goal of Southern secession was to topple the Lincoln regime then DisHonest Abe would have been obligated to defend against that.

Try sticking with the facts and forget about your fantasies.

471 posted on 08/02/2015 9:44:28 AM PDT by cowboyway (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: rockrr
Yep - just like a fart in an elevator, everyone knows that pokie is back.

I've forgotten the reason why you called me 'pokie'. It had something to do with your mother or sister, right?

472 posted on 08/02/2015 9:47:46 AM PDT by cowboyway (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: cowboyway

Stay classy pokie.


473 posted on 08/02/2015 10:16:25 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Take your own advice.


474 posted on 08/02/2015 10:27:24 AM PDT by cowboyway (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: cowboyway

Sure pokie.

I posted that every time there is an unpleasant small I look around and there you are. Simple truth.

I posted a reply to your idiotic misinterpretation of a Lincoln quote.

And I posted a mild scold to your offensive inclusion of my family members. No decent FReeper would ever stoop to such a childish and puerile tactic - but a bottom-feeder such as yourself falls all over himself to jump to it.

Stay classy pokie.


475 posted on 08/02/2015 10:41:24 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
You post crap is the reason why you smell crap.

Your pathetic attempt at revisionism might work with the group of bottom feeders that you obviously associate with but it won't cut it with me.

Of course, I knew the suggestion to take your own advice would be well above your abilities to act on. You're nothing but a sniveling, snarky, classless little toad.

Stay classless, fockrr.

476 posted on 08/02/2015 11:02:21 AM PDT by cowboyway (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: cowboyway

And that’s the thing I appreciate the most about you pokie - you provide the punctuation to everyone’s “worst” depictions of the lost cause loser. You come on like a pit-yorkie - full of noise and bullsnot and not much else.

Welcome back pokie!


477 posted on 08/02/2015 11:32:14 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Name calling: the trademark of the libtard loser.


478 posted on 08/02/2015 2:51:46 PM PDT by cowboyway (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: cowboyway

Wooooosh! The sound of irony going right over your head.


479 posted on 08/02/2015 2:55:08 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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