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The Marriage of Obama's Parents: 'In Name Only'?
American Thinker ^ | March 8, 2014 | Shawn Glasco

Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome

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To: ladyjane; Fred Nerks
Since you are cut and pasting from a Wikipedia page. I will cut and paste the following paragraph that you conveniently left out:

Alternatively, Jr's are sometimes referred to as "II". However, the original name carrier relative a "II" is named for is generally an uncle, cousin, or ancestor (including grandfather). The suffix "III" is used after either Jr or II and like subsequent numeric suffixes, does not need to happen in one family line. For example, if Randall and Patrick Dudley are brothers and if Randall has a son before Patrick, he will call his son Patrick, II. If Patrick now has a son, his son is Patrick, Jr. As time passes, the III suffix goes to the son of either Patrick Jr or Patrick II, whomever is first to have a son Patrick. This is one way it is possible and correct for a Jr. to father a IV. Another example involves President Ulysses S. Grant and his sons Frederick, Ulysses Jr, and Jesse. When Frederick's son Ulysses was born in 1881, Ulysses Jr did not yet have a son named after himself. Therefore, Frederick's son was Ulysses III. Ulysses Jr's son, born afterwards in 1893, was Ulysses IV. Jesse's son Chapman was the father of Ulysses V, as neither Ulysses III nor Ulysses IV had sons named for themselves.
141 posted on 03/08/2014 9:12:08 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ladyjane

At the time of Obama’s birth, Kenya was still under British rule therefore he would be considered a citizen of Britain/England....if he was born in Kenya, as many say he was. I do not know, but would like to see it tried in the Supreme Court.


142 posted on 03/08/2014 9:16:57 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: ladyjane

Btw, I’m an Australian, a member of the British Commonwealth, and I can honestly tell you, that in all of my long life, I have never met a Jr.

A boy might be referred to as junior if he has the same name as his father, but on a birth certificate, as part of his name?

Never.

Neither have I run across a II or what-ever as part of a name. But in english lit and history, it’s quite common.


143 posted on 03/08/2014 9:18:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer

Thanks for posting that, I have no idea why it became so contentious. The kenyan was certainly arrogant enough to assume he would follow the British convention. I could name another with similar opinions of himself; acts like a sovereign with a God-given right to rule like King George, but sends back the bust of Winston Churchill.


144 posted on 03/08/2014 9:26:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
I just noticed, is that why you call yourself ladyjane Royalty, are we?

or maybe just a fan of Mick Jagger...


145 posted on 03/08/2014 9:31:10 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

He bequeathed the name to me before he went back to Kenya...

146 posted on 03/08/2014 9:35:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Speaking of Juniors, Loren Collins seems to think that Sammy Davis, Jr. is the father.

http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2012/10/fever-dreams-from-my-real-father-4.html


147 posted on 03/08/2014 9:40:26 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: silverleaf
“the only time BHO saw lil Barry was at the airport- when he flew to Hawaii to sign the DIVORCE papers ..... or ADOPTION agreement....or some such story”

Stanley Ann Dunham filed for divorce in January 1964. She was granted an uncontested divorce 2 months later. Barak never signed any papers. There was no marriage certificate attached to the divorce filing.

Barak visited Hawaii in 1971. He was friends with the president of Kenya and got a cushy government job. But he was a drunk and screwed up and got fired in 1971. He did not spend any time with Stanley Ann or little Barry Soetoro as he was officially named at the time. It appears he came to visit people he had known at University of Hawaii. Perhaps he was looking for a job or financial help. The pictures were taken at the airport in 1971. They are the only pictures of Barak with little Barry. Some people claim the pictures are fake.

148 posted on 03/08/2014 9:56:23 PM PST by detective
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To: Brown Deer
And while I think of it, here's a composite of Stanley Ann Dunham on the left from 1958, the anonymous model whose images appeared in Exotique Magazine in 1958 in the middle, and Stanley Ann Dunham on the right, supposedly in 1960:


149 posted on 03/08/2014 10:04:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer
“For proof there are porn pictures of obama’s mother that circulate around made by frank marshall davis...

NONSENSE.”

There are naked posed pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham that have been shown to have been taken by Frank Marshall Davis. Learn a little about the topic and stop insulting posters who tell the truth.

150 posted on 03/08/2014 10:05:53 PM PST by detective
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To: Brown Deer
Loren writes:

(The absurd 'Malcolm X as father' claim at least has the benefit of the two men looking slightly similar.)

Now isn't that just plan ridiculous...whatever would make anyone in their right mind think such a thing?

151 posted on 03/08/2014 10:10:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: detective

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3130965/posts?page=149#149

Where I come from we say you wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you on the backside


152 posted on 03/08/2014 10:14:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: detective
There are naked posed pictures of Stanley Ann Dunham that have been shown to have been taken by Frank Marshall Davis. Learn a little about the topic and stop insulting posters who tell the truth.

NONSENSE!!!

Debunked long ago on FR. Neither one of them was involved with those photos. Read the threads on FR and learn something, before posting your BS nonsense.
153 posted on 03/08/2014 10:20:24 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: ckilmer

I know of the Davis connection but I believe there are more dots in my plausible take on Obama’s birth and child status. Get a photo of middle aged Subud and compare with recent Obama photos. I stand by my belief that skin color does not prove one is of African descent. There is continuity of records in my belief as to Indonesia, Hawaii, Kenya, Seattle, and Chicago.


154 posted on 03/08/2014 10:20:45 PM PST by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: Fred Nerks
“HERE'S THE FOUR CONTENDERS RACKED UP SO FAR - TAKE YOUR PICK”

It is not Barak Obama, that is certain. It could be Frank Marshall Davis or litterly thousands of other blacks. I don't see why someone doesn't get DNA evidence.

155 posted on 03/08/2014 10:21:43 PM PST by detective
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To: Brown Deer

You don’t know what you are talking about. Stop being rude and insulting.


156 posted on 03/08/2014 10:25:38 PM PST by detective
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To: noinfringers2

1. MALCOM. 2. THE KENYAN. 3. FRANK. 4. PABAK SUBUH

How many times have I posted that now and told you take your pick, and you still keep asking for someone to post the image of SUBUH. That's him on the right.

157 posted on 03/08/2014 10:27:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: noinfringers2

Here he is again. He sure don't look nuthin like your el presidente. He's a short legged little Indonesian fellow.

158 posted on 03/08/2014 10:30:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: noinfringers2

He looks so much like the man in the white hut you can't figure out why no one but you can see it, right?

159 posted on 03/08/2014 10:36:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Brown Deer

I’m doing a masterful job of keeping my mouth shut for once.And I’m thinking, it couldn’t possibly be Malcolm because Malcolm didn’t spend enough time in the US between 1959 and 1960 to get more than one woman pregnant. So if he’s the one, then the girlfriend must have been from the Middle East because that’s where he was most of the time. Hanging around Cairo where David Du Bois and Maya Angelou were working. Spending time visiting with the professors at The American University of Beirut.


160 posted on 03/08/2014 10:51:17 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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