Skip to comments.Sheriff Arpaio's Obama Investigator (Lt. Mike Zullo): New Obama Revelations In Two Weeks
Posted on 05/20/2013 1:13:14 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
"In two weeks the naysayers will find out just how wrong they have been" - Mike Zullo
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
Many of us remember. And you KNOW Obama and the Clinton’s do. They will survive.. unless we are ruthless.
If you HAVE the smoking gun, just throw down... why the 2 weeks from now suspense...??
I'd prefer he just kept it under his hat if the timing isn't right to release his new data. I hate teasers.
There are likely several million true Americans who would be better than that lying, commie loving, POS Hillary. The appropriate position for her would be just under whale crap at the bottom of the ocean.
Indeed. The Kold Kase Kops are on the job!!
Now that's funny.
“Set your calendars to June 3rd.”
If they drop something critical on 3 June, I’ll give FreeRepublic $100. If it is more blah, blah, blah, then you (Cold Case Posse Supporter) donate $100 to FreeRepublic.
Drip drip drip...
The problem with this is that whatever they “drop” (which is probably going to be, “We found another hack ‘expert’ to agree with us”) they’ll claim it’s “critical.”
And probably some of the birthers will say, “Yeah! This is HUGH!”
If the Posse actually says anything at all, of course. I wouldn’t put it past ‘em to just not ever release anything. Birthers’ attention span is pretty short. And they can always be counted on to believe that THIS time, Lucy’s not gonna pull that football away.
Wow. I just listened to the video. What a waste.
“We’re going to release something really big in two weeks.”
As others have noted: If they actually had something really big, why not just release it?
Thanks for the thread. I have marked my calendar! I would have put it up if you hadn’t beaten me to it, of course. Tough crowd today.
Jeff Winston.................you have absolutely nothing of substance to say. Your attempts at trying to define a natural born citizen have failed. You have never personally provided your credentials pertaining to constitutional law compared to that of established constitutional professor and lawyer Dr. Herb Titus who I have published his whole resume here. Where is yours? Where is it Jeff? Again.....where is it? What you present is nothing but speculation and innuendo based on your opinion alone. That’s it. Again, you have nothing of substance to present. You fail!
Grow up Jeff. That alone tells me you are very immature and that you are the very people Zullo describes in the interview. Again................grow up!
GO TO 8:40 AND LISTEN
Could you give a hint? Hub is sleeping 10 feet away and is dead tired, I can’t listen to anything right now.
So far, Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse is just one more bunch of birther conspiracy theorists who are all talk and no action
Oh, so you think 0bastard’s documents are all real and not forged?
It would be impossible for Mr Obama to have a child in Kenya in 1961, but Kezia, his wife might have had one...and as his legal wife, any child she may have had would be considered to be his...
It is Seize...........it is. I never thought that the attacks on this subject (and me) would come from established freepers from 10 years past. Incredible! I laid it out what is simplistic in terms and how this process would proceed. Zullo stated basically that people can’t decipher logic or comprehend English OR they manipulate his statements. I agree. It is a pitch battle of the wits.
Fred Nerks.......lets be cordial.........I want to know right now and be honest.......please......do you think Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya? Yes or No
And if you start by scrolling through this thread backwards, you might understand why I do not:
Make a coffee, relax, take your time and start from here:
Won’t tell you where he was born, but it will give you a fairly good idea who he isn’t.
Mark my words.
In two weeks' time, you will have some other little bone of hope thrown to you by Zullo and the Kold Kase Kops.
If you get anything at all.
Oh, you might get some other opinion of some other over-inflated "expert."
Like Mara Zebest. Yeah, she's the author of about a HUNDRED books.
Only if you go to Amazon and search, you find out she's really been a Photoshop contributor to books that were really authored by others, and there doesn't seem to be anything remotely approaching a hundred of them.
More like... what was it, about six or eight?
And then you look at those and realize... they're all pretty much just updates of the same book.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Or you'll have a repeat of the same tired stuff, only with some new "expert" saying it.
Or... maybe they're produce some new allegation... only, like with their supposed 1961 manual, they'll never actually show anybody the evidence they say they have.
Or if they do, it'll turn out to be faked, just like that 1961 manual evidence was.
Of maybe they'll produce some new bit of evidence... that will be promptly debunked. You won't pay any attention to the debunking, of course. So that'll keep you strung along for a while.
Or... maybe you'll just have some empty promise.
"Hey, we've got some REALLY REALLY good stuff now! And we're gonna ROLL IT OUT. Things are REALLLY MOVIN' now! And Obama is gonna have to FLEE the White House. When? Oh. Well, we're not going to let people RUSH us. We have to do this at the RIGHT TIME. Otherwise it won't work. But we're makin' BIG PROGRESS here. You can surely count on us."
Here's what you WON'T have.
You WON'T have an indisputable, unshakeable case.
You WON'T have the opinion of a real, indisputable, nationally or internationally recognized forensic expert.
You WON'T have ANYTHING that wouldn't get you laughed out of court if it were presented in a court of law.
If the court even bothers to pay any attention to it at all.
You won't even have anything that is good enough to convince healthily skeptical conservatives, here at what has to be just about the friendliest general political web site for birthers on the internet.
Oh, the gullible one will go along for the ride, of course. They always do.
But you can't even convince the healthy skeptics who are staunch conservatives. And still you fantasize about taking the world by storm.
None of that is going to change. Zullo's bombshell, if you're lucky, will pop like a cheap firecracker.
If you're not lucky, it won't even sizzle at all.
So once again, like Lucy with the football, Zullo and his team are going to disappoint you.
And this is pretty much as certain as death and taxes.
And once again, like Charlie Brown, you'll tell yourself it's gonna be different... THIS time.
Or NEXT time. Yeah, that's it. Hey! They've got more SHOCKING DETAILS that they are just about to roll out...
In three more weeks.
Oh yeah, baby.
Oh, it'll be good enough to keep you going. Gotta keep that hope alive.
And one day, you'll finally slink away from the issue and find something better to do. Given the eternal hope of birthers, it probably won't be until 2016.
But hey... didn't somebody say that sanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Or something like that.
Anyway, remember: You heard it here first.
CCPS - and anyone else interested - I have started a ping list Zero’s aka Barack Husein 0bama Background.
Anyone who wants on it, freepmail me.
Oh boy, someone else to put words in my mouth.
I’ve already explained where I stand on this subject in several posts on this thread. If you disapprove, fine.
OK, let’s use your own argument on Obama now. If Obama has a real birth certificate, why not just release it? He’s produced two fakes; why won’t he produce the real thing? Answer me that.
unfortunately, the MSM, the leftists and others have made it so that the burden of proof isn’t on the kenyan to prove anything...
let’s just hope that zullo and his team have solid, irrefutable, unambiguous evidence that the kenyan is a fraud. Evidence which CANNOT be easily explained away, dismissed, laughed at or debunked. anything less would be a complete waste of time.
You know, I've followed this kind of closely. I've even read stuff you've written, and Woodman's book and blog.
It looks to me like you and the rest of the people who keep crying "fake" are smoking something.
Do you realize the guy who just about invented file compression - a REAL expert instead of the wannabes that have been debunked again and again - looked at the file and said you're all full of it?
Thanks for the ping!
His postings on other issues are too reliably conservative to discredit him as a liberal agent provocateur, but there are those in the establishment on our side who hate this issue as much or more than do the Democrats. Jeff pursues it like a job, so i'm suspecting it may very well be.
Alvin Onaka would not verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file”. He has to verify it if he can, by law.
What expert of yours is able to prove Onaka a liar?
And we know that the security paper that the White House image is on is not the security paper that Hawaii uses. Somebody screwed up when they created that background layer.
But suppose you are right. A reporter at the press gaggle asked if the press would be able to examine the actual BC and was laughed at. Even Obama was not allowed to hold the actual BC. Why is that? Why don’t we have video footage of somebody examining that actual document in person, so we can see three dimensions?
My arguments have never relied on computer analysis, because I’m not knowledgeable about computers, so if the “expert” you claim (and who is this expert?) is going to say that I am “all full of it”, he/she had better address the non-computer proofs against the authenticity of that document. It’s quite a conspiracy theory if he/she is going to claim that Onaka perjured himself in a legal response to the AZ SOS. What evidence does he/she have, to refute the presumption of regularity for Onaka’s response - his response of NOT verifying the genuineness of the White House image or the facts of birth requested on the verification application?
Don’t know if you’ve seen this yet.
The footnotes are a hoot.
“The curious suggestion that the copy of the Presidents birth certificate attached to the ADPs brief is somehow a new version reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between a document and a scanned photocopy of that document. Just like a photograph of a baby is not a new version of the real baby, a scanned photocopy of a document is not a new version of that document.”
“The ADP notes that the affiant signed the affidavit solely in his personal capacity and without any title, even an imaginary one.”
Jesus Christ Himself was found guilty, hung on a cross, spit on, and mocked. If He can be mocked, ANYTHING can be mocked.
There is no such thing as absolute proof. The legal standard for crimes is “beyond a reasonable doubt”, and Zullo has said what he has surpasses that standard. But to those who are unwilling to see, nothing will ever be enough. There’s always that one in ten billion chance that pigs have flown.
We who were considered crazy for noting that the regime is corrupt, uses their powers to harass innocent people, and lies constantly are being vindicated daily now, and there is more to come. The same excuses to dismiss the evidence we’ve got are being used to dismiss Fast & Furious, Benghazi, the IRS targeting, the potential targeting, desecration, and cover-up of SEAL Team 6, and Michelle Obama’s figurative “high five” to Bin Laden’s son Hamza after he was caught at the finish line of the Boston marathon. Those who refuse to see this regime for what it is, when all this is in front of their faces, are beyond EVER seeing. There is none so blind as he who will not see.
Alvin Onaka refused to say that the White House “scan” of the “baby” is an accurate representation of the “real baby”.
Nor would he verify the specific features of that “baby” - wouldn’t verify that the eyes ARE green, the hair brown, the weight 8 lbs 6 ounces, for example. By law he is required to say the features of the child if the requestor accurately named the features.
The forgers couldn’t even get the security background right when they had a copy from the HDOH right there. Now THAT’s hilarious!
I’ve found that if somebody is willfully blind on this issue I can’t stand to listen to them on any issue. They’ve destroyed their own credibility. So when I see a post by him, or others like him, I pretty much just scroll past it in other contexts.
I understand the feeling, but I think you can make his experience more unpleasant by confronting him when he spouts his spiel.
The Hawaii Department of Health has repeatedly said the birth certificate is genuine, and Obama was born in Hawaii. They've said it just about every way they possibly could except for standing on their heads and singing the announcement if four-part harmony.
Just because you imagine they are parsing their words in such a way as to not say it while saying it, doesn't mean that's so.
As far as reporters go, reporters saw the paper birth certificate, and one of them even took a picture of it, which is obviously a photo of a real paper document.
Ah, but that's not good enough for you. You have to have a VIDEO.
This is how birthers work. No matter what you produce, it's never enough.
And never will be.
We could travel back in time, and bring back James Madison, George Washington, John Jay and Alexander Hamilton to swear on live TV before the US Supreme Court that they never even thought of Vattel when they wrote "natural born citizen," and still birthers would insist it takes birth on US soil plus two citizen parents.
And we could produce a video of Stanley Ann giving birth to Obama in Hawaii with a newspaper on the nightstand that said "Honolulu, August whatever of 1961," and birthers would still insist he must have been born somewhere else.
You know it's true.
I don’t think you understand what the “real expert” is saying. It’s not that the birth certificate is not a forgery, like the “so-called experts”, he has never examined the birth certificate.
“There is no possible way I can tell if the PDF of President Obamas birth certificate (POBC) made available by the White House is a forgery or not. The forgery can happen before being processed not to mention that the paper document itself could be forged, before the scanning. Thus, this is not the point.”
“The question is whether all these artifacts we see after rendering the PDF of POBC are signs of forgery. I do not see that. I see them more likely as a result of inadequate processing.”
“In summary I can only say I see much stronger signs of common MRC algorithmic processing of the image rather than some intentional manipulation.”
By artifacts he means things like the different layers, the white halos, the multiple pixel sizes, identical elements, etc.
So while the actual birth certificate might be a forgery, you can not tell by analyzing the pdf. This is because the process used to compress the original scan from megabytes in size to kilobytes in size destroyed any evidence that might have existed and created artifacts that appear to be anomalies but are not.
Google “Ricardo L. de Queiroz”.
Addendum, why two weeks? Brietbart died under mysterious circumstances on the very eve of his big disclosure, (which, oddly enough, didn't happen after that) why give anyone two full weeks to arrange mysterious circumstances???
“The legal standard for crimes is beyond a reasonable doubt, and Zullo has said what he has surpasses that standard.”
Then he should go to court TODAY and file charges. With thousands of DAs in America, surely 1 out of thousands would file charges, if presented evidence.
That is why so many on this thread are saying “Ho-Hum”! If Zullo has evidence that proves criminal activity beyond a reasonable doubt, he should either A) stay silent until he is ready to press charges, or B) press charges. By saying, ‘I’ve got proof, but I’m going to wait 14 days before I show you my secret super duper proof’, he looks like someone running a scam.
How many times have we heard this before? And how many times has Zullo dropped a turd on the floor and called it a gold necklace? Life is not a Ludlum novel. There isn’t a giant conspiracy that includes Limbaugh & Palin & Mark Levin & every member of Congress & the US court system.
We few, we happy few, we birther band of brothers;
For he to-day that believes Zullo with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in Birtherland now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That believed with us on 20 May!
The person authorized by law to verify facts - and required to certify that verification - disagrees with the people spouting off to the media.
So who you gonna believe? The person who is bound by law, authorized to make the disclosure, and swears that he has kept the law.... or the same windbags who have been caught not only lying to the media but also going so far as to fabricate multiple documents in order to deceive the public?
The security background that doesn’t match that used by the HDOH is a dead giveaway that the White House image is not a scan of what the HDOH sent them.
Your continued ad hominems and refusals to address the real evidence makes you the equivalent of a gnat hovering around the eyes. Lotta people like that around here, and it spoils their credibility on everything.
there are those in the establishment on our side who hate this issue as much or more than do the Democrats.
Gee. I wonder why that is? Do you think it might be because you people have never done anything but make our side look like a bunch of nuts?
I think it is obvious by now that Obama has the IRS, FBI & CIA all ready and willing to do his bidding. He doesn’t NEED to manipulate a PDF file. He could have the forgery done on paper dating from 1961, by experts, and entered into Hawaii’s files. He could have the microfilm replaced with microfilm showing his birth certificate forgery was there all along.
The government makes birth certificates. When you control the government, you don’t need to manipulate images. You manipulate the official record, and then forever and for all time the official record shows your forgery is real.
But one can be certain it is a fake from a scan.
For example, if I gave you a scan of Obama's selective service registration card "that he signed in 1980", but the actual form he signed isn't the 1980 version of the SS registration form, but one that wasn't issued until 1995, you can be certain it wasn't signed in 1980, can't you?
So based on that garbage rational there is no way to claim the image at the following link is not authentic:
Amazing. Simply amazing the lengths of twisted logic used to avoid the facts.
It is not at all possible to authenticate anything from an digital image. That is true. But the signs of fraud will come through in digital images.
You can not use a digital image as both a shield and sword. Either show the real, actual document or go away. The digital games are nearly over.
BTW, birth certificates are secondary citizenship evidence. Passport and passport records are primary. Lets see those!
Interestingly enough, when a reporter went to look for the original microfilm way back when, that one roll was missing. When he checked back a few days later it had been found.
The 'found' roll, unlike the rest of the rolls from that time period was pristine, no scratches, dust, fingerprints or wear.
This was reported on the Long Thread. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Ping to self.
“The security background that doesnt match that used by the HDOH is a dead giveaway that the White House image is not a scan of what the HDOH sent them.”
Look at this wiki article:
Look at the dog pictures on the right. See how as the image is compressed more and more, you lose details.
This is what happened to the green background layer.
The text layers were compressed using a different method so they would lose less detail since for most scanned documents you can afford to lose detail in the images and graphics but you want text to remain sharp and clear.
Flushing someone out might be a reason.
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