Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
Reading comprehension would mean repeating something someone said in a fashion that at least resembles the statement.
You failed.
You think a leader in a cult that teaches people that they can become Gods themselves and have worshipers and polygamous wives as they rule over their own planet, and that the true God that we worship, is just one of them, is just Jim Dandy?
That must be some church you go to.
“polygamous wives”
Umm you DO realize that was outlawed in the 1800 before they were allowed to become a state don’t you?
Where are you getting your talking points from DU? Cause you sure sound like them these days.
well...kemo...do us a favor and hike on over to MITTS HOME PAGE HERE’S THE URL
http://www.mittromney.com/issues
READ HIS STANCE ON ALL THE ISSUES ...ALL OF WHICH MAKE SENSE TO THE SENSIBLE..
then you hike back here and tell us which ones you don’t like and why...
we’re waiting....jeeesh..
Umm, read the post again.
To be fair, once upon a time, the Jews practiced polygamy. And had slaves. And created and worshiped a golden cow. But, God can still change things with His people.
Quit making crap up about me. You have no idea what my social policy views are. I am probably more socially conservative than you on your little meter because I live and breathe Torah. Next you’ll bring up blood libel.
You are very small minded. I will pray for you to see the error of your vicious attacks on good hearted people.
the person you were replying to is a retread troll, don’t feed the trolls ;)
No, you have made it clear that you don’t even realize that social conservatism is what it all is built on, without that foundation, then social liberalism will rule and the home for that is the democrat party, and fiscal liberalism.
The more religious, the more faithful, then the more likely a person is to vote conservatively, and republican, the less religious, then the more likely to vote liberal democrat.
Hey, we got lost in the desert for 40 years too...
Mitt Romney is a devotee of Joseph Smith, Stake President Romney excommunicated people for things like you are claiming that he thinks, Mitt is a true, devoted follower of Joseph Smith.
The Romneys have served Joseph Smith’s cult continuously, for 170 years.
You have it completely backwards, and it is plain that you have little grasp of current events or even recent history.
Shoving people out of the conservative movement because they have a different way of worshipping G-d than you is anti-conservative PERIOD.
Yes, that too. Some people are still ‘lost in the desert’ of their own making, for most of their lives. :)
All that is explained by the bible and has nothing to do with Joseph Smith and the bible that he wrote when he started a new cult religion.
Yep. Joseph Smith’s a heretic. Wouldn’t want to be standing next to him when he meets God. Or you for that matter. I’ll still pray for you though.
so I take it you’ll be staying home.
No, I will vote for Romney against Obama the Socialist!!!
“....makes it all but impossible for me to support him.”
So there’s still a chance?
Hey, I don’t disagree with your points on Mormonism. I don’t agree with a lot of their thinking, and I put the problem on the Joseph Smith ‘prophecies’ they adhere to.
However....with that said, I still preferred my daughters to have Mormon friends when they were growing up to the promiscuous daughters of unbelievers. I still prefer someone with morals that are akin to God’s values than Satan’s Muslims, particularly the one in the White House right now.
No third party will walk in the door in 2013.
So, which one I be helping get through that door this November is a no brainer for me.
So many posts from self righteous, holier than thou, sophisticated, compromising, “pragmatic” so-called conservatives who have decided to vote for Romney.
They just can’t stand the fact that some on FR will not vote for their lying liberal guy.
Keep up the good fight... your integrity is admirable.
“Reading comprehension would mean repeating something someone said in a fashion that at least resembles the statement. You failed.”
I thought that resembled plagiarism, verses independent critic/ commentary. “Repeating” as an English major? There’s a torch yourself moment. And gee, I’m pretty sure I used quotes when I responded to statements.
I have it right and the voting data proves it.
The religious vote republican, the nonreligious vote democrat.
If you want fiscal conservatism, then you better pray for more Evangelicals, not atheists and social liberals.
Nice try, but you failed again. Plagiarism is claiming ownership of a statement not your own. It’s not giving credit to another who wrote it.
Reading comprehension would mean repeating something someone said in a fashion that at least resembles the statement. You failed.
Get the difference now?
Original Statement. As I said, I will do all in my power to help turn this around, AND THEN as I am bid by the scriptures, I will wait on the arm of the Lord to be revealed.
Your CNN Mis-statement: So am I understanding this correctly- you will rely on your own arm of the flesh to turn this around and then look to God after?
Wow, the similarity in meaning between these two sentences are so great, I don’t know how it got by me. You must be a Reading Comprehension wiz! LOL !!
Excellent post #1120. Well said.
And I suppose you have a credible link for these wild @ssed claims?
Social conservatism cannot progress without a fiscal conservative foundation that conservatives can agree on. Very little room for misinterpretation, yet you manage it in every single reply.
How’d Huckabee work out as a candidate?
If you are Christian, then you know the worst thing that could happen to your daughters is to become members of an anti-Christian cult, which is deceivingly similar to Christianity, no matter how clean and well mannered the cult is.
Then if religious vote R? What politician gets the vote...from the wild eyed frothing at the mouth folks like you?
Actually, there are a lot of fiscal conservatives that vote Democrat simply because some loudmouth, pretentious turds attempt to co-opt conservatism in the name of religion, turning Conservatism into something repulsive and unidentifiable. It makes them want to puke and drives them to the only other option. You can hardly blame them for refusing to identify with such hypocrisy.
Not commenting on the specific choice of a vote for Romney or Obama here but there is still the consideration of the overall vote count. While it is true that the Electoral College decides who is President, there are increasing moves to give some import to popular election numbers. THis is often based on who wins and whether the popular vote for the other guy is larger than the votes that gave the Electoral College to the winner. So, in a way, a conservative vote in California does matter, if only to counter popular vote win claims.
We are to be hearers and doers of His Word. And waiting on The Lord means as a waiter waits - serving and doing while listening for some direction specifically for that person. That does not apply to voting.
This is not the last day of their debates. A spiritual person would know the first day.
I think Jeff is implying - he will do whatever he can and God will reveal if his efforts were good enough - If Romney wins. We are responsible for who we vote for - if there is no Truth in us, we are responsible for that also. God revealed 'all' already and any supposed waiting on The Lord - it would HAVE TO AGREE with His Written Word anyway. And it doesn't apply in this situation anyway.
Christians are well equipped to handle any situation - He didn't leave us powerless or w/a need to know what to do. If one is living their faith, they know almost immediately. A spirit filled Christian has wisdom and discernment and this election was a no brainer.
You didn't have to think and dawdle about it, you just knew! Because you know God/HIS WILL/HIS WORD. Only those who don't would be stumped, or act stumped to appear religious w/'I'm waiting to hear'. Those who embrace evil, are attracted to it and knew immediately, also. I/my spirit is repulsed by it and know the tactics and snares of satan. His Word equips us!
True. But my daughters were raised since babies with the Word. They accepted Christ as their Savior as little ones, and regularly were taught His teachings throughout their lives. I had trust in the Lord that He would keep my daughters from believing false beliefs because they were well-grounded. I couldn’t raise them in a cocoon.
My daughter who had the Mormon girlfriends never was in trouble, always was where she said she’d be, and set her mind on only marrying (and did) a strong Christian man.
They regularly go to church and have Bible studies with young couples.
She, by the way, has been a wonderful Christian example to her Mormon friends and was able to sow seeds in their lives. Not only her, but our family was, because her friends would come to our home too.
And now my daughter continues to pray for her friends. If I kept her away from these girls, they wouldn’t possibly have had any Christianity in their own lives when they were young women.
thanks Sam
You don't get it, social liberals are the ones banding together to vote your money, into their lives.
It takes a social conservative to have the morality to not use the vote to take what he wants from you.
Do you see who is voting conservatively and who is using the vote to take what they want? When you are outnumbered with the vote, you want those voters to be social conservatives, not social liberals.
Your “Catholic” boyfriend was “horrified” that, through the Holy Eucharist, bread and wine is turned into the body and blood of Jesus Christ?
What is your point?
Something about daughters and third parties.
Evidently Mormonism being based on appearing Christian, and converting Christians as their cults goal, doesn’t bother you because your family is immune, too bad about those who succumb each year, not even realizing what they are being drawn into.
Eddie Munster
LOL! First good laugh I've had in days! Seriously!
So, according to the chart, that would mean the conservatives wouldn’t want to alienate anyone voting socially conservative, such as the Mormons!
My point is, I’d rather have a Mormon who has values akin to God’s in the White House then help Satan’s helper by voting third party.
You are still twisting my words to make some weird point that no one cares about.
You obviously have an issue with the TEA (TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY) party and fiscons.
Huckabee and Santorum ran on pretty much a social conservative platform, and neither of them got the nomination. Why? Too many G-dless heathens or something?
Without fiscal conservativism as a strong foundation, you will not win primaries, and as your chart proves, the general election. It is the one thing all conservatives should agree on.
That is the point, Bishop Romney’s values are the destroyer of souls, he is the man who wants to seduce you and all peoples, away from Christ, he has devoted his life to that mission.
Excellent questions.
Stop with the logic. We don’t tolerate that in these here parts!
Please. Romney is not going to be having mind melds in the White House, or issuing sermons about Joseph Smith on the Saturday Presidential Fireside chats, or going to Temple in Utah to conspire to strip Americans of their Constitutional rights.
Did he do these things when he headed up the Olympics? As Governor of Mass?
No. The goal is to get Obama out, devote all our efforts in electing Constitutional conservatives to the House and Senate over the coming election cycles, and then, with more support assured of conservatives in power, have a true conservative run for President next time.
Yeah, seems so.
This web site compares the teachings of the LDS Church to the Bible using the teachings of the Catholic Church to interpret the Bible. It has received the Fidelity Green Light Award for its Excellence in Catholic Fidelity from CatholicCulture.org.Mitt and Paul will have lots to discuss (in their free time:)): Comparing Mormonism
Your desire to remove social conservatism would doom fiscal conservatism, you truly are blind to how social liberalism, and socon is divided in the vote.
The democrats win the vast majority of social liberals, the more social liberals you create, then the more they will take what they want from you with the vote.
Thanks. Will check in a day or two.
Interesting approach. I’m in California, so I think I’ll be switching my vote from write-in Republican conservative over to you.
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