'Courtesy Mark Obama N'...it's been cropped.
Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
And the grade school boys picture, am going by what Mark has on the cover of the advance copy of his book.
Posted link upthread to Marks website where he says he will talk about his brother David in that upcoming book.
Cover has his parents, currnet picture of him and 0, and a picture of him when grade school age.
Said picture’s left hand boy matches the toddler on the left; in that picture Mark ID’ed that little boy on the left as David.
‘This phrase stood out:
“... Originally copyrighted by Mark Ndesandjo ...”
Couple questions arise from this:
1)was permission sought, AND GRANTED, to post that picture here, since its copyrighted?
2)if its copyrighted, wouldn’t the copyright owner know who is in it?’
You are asking some excellent questions. I wonder if Mark would grant permission to post the photo if he knew it was being used to claim his brother David never existed?
Only one way to find out.
Are there still rules here about discussing the real identities and personal information of FReepers here on FR?
I think it’s all gone way beyond the rules. There are contributors to this thread who are simply driven by the emotion of hatred for something they have failed to understand. It’s not rational.
One thing I would like to correct. When I described the family group image as ‘copyrighted’ I should have written ‘supplied courtesy of’ - which is how it appears on The Obama File. I have no idea who removed that information. Some copies have that, others don’t.
The fact is, we know that Mark did not take those photos when he was a child, so in turn he could not have copyrighted them. I doubt that a Kenyan photographer would have gone to the trouble of copyrighting these photos some 40 years ago, unless he actually had some personal knowledge that they might be photos of a future US president. Now that is some wild theory. ;-)
'Courtesy Mark Obama N'...it's been cropped.
Mark and Ruth would have all the photo albums from the time they were a family. Maybe he believes what he's been told. That boy is you and the other one is David.
I guess when he wakes up, he can change the cover of the book that hasn't been published, but he still has to explain how he managed to get a photo of himself sitting next to zero.
The photographs we see of the family in Kenya and those of Ruth with a baby, originated from a video in which Mark was interviewed, and as he speaks, he turns the pages of an album. I did not take the video stills, I don’t know how to. They appeared on various websites.
Mark did NOT identify anyone as he spoke. He simply turned the pages for the camera.
Anyone interested can probably still find the videos on Youtube. I did not keep the links.
Notice anything different?
It's all very flexible...
Nairobi To Shenzhen: A Novel of Love in the East Paperback: 345 pages Publisher: Aventine Press (October 20, 2009) Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #1,108,891 in BooksI expected flawless grammar and sophisticated structure from this half-brother of our Barack Obama, who is so articulate and uses the English language nearly flawlessly. However, there are so many problems with the writing in this novel as to almost keep me from reading the second half. Introductory phrases are not followed by commas, so the meanings of many sentences are confusing, and I have to re-read many sentences in order to realize their meaning. There are missing periods, extra periods, missing commas, extra commas, misspelled words, missing words, duplicated words, weird speaker tags, missing speaker tags so that one gets lost and doesn't know who is speaking in a conversation. Weirdly, the font size will change now and then for no apparent reason. And quotation marks seem to be inserted haphazardly, so the reader is never certain when a piece of dialogue has ended or is being spoken by someone else.
With punctuation, I hope. Sorry, but the whole thing is a pee-poor joke, flexible cover images and all.
I feel a song coming on...
Now that is funny. Also funny how the critic says that Zero is articulate - actually that’s the funniest thing in the whole review!
The image above is the one I posted to this thread previously. Note the changes which now appear, since I posted it.
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