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Free Republic Purge: Conservative Web Site Bans Giuliani Supporters
NY Observer ^ | Published: May 24, 2007 | by Rebecca Sinderbrand

Posted on 05/26/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit

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To: doc30
What does Terri Schaivo have to do with murdering a young woman?

Other than the fact that she was murdered?

1,121 posted on 05/30/2007 11:51:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: js1138
Again, I have to ask, who is the Wormwood standing beside JR?

If you have a question for JR, ask him, not me.

1,122 posted on 05/30/2007 12:00:30 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: doc30

Amen. Besides, the vernal equinox is a Satanic holiday anyway.


1,123 posted on 05/30/2007 12:01:05 PM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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To: Eurotwit

hmm we’re famously frisky...

I like that.. might use it for a tag line :)


1,124 posted on 05/30/2007 12:03:23 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: wagglebee

On that, we disagree. She was dead a deacade earlier.


1,125 posted on 05/30/2007 12:09:57 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

How exactly do you define dead?


1,126 posted on 05/30/2007 12:10:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Graybeard58; js1138
Again, I have to ask, who is the Wormwood standing beside JR?

If you have a question for JR, ask him, not me.

I've been wondering the same thing. What exactly are you implying? Do you think that JimRob has "fallen prey" to some sort of outside influence? Because many of us were delighted that he finally decided to do something about all of the FRiberals.

1,127 posted on 05/30/2007 12:13:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Sadly, we all saw that Bush only gave lip service to conservatism. The opposition to Giuliani and other RINOs simply means we don't want to make that same mistake again."

Absolutely correct. My memory is that W was never considered conservative, unfortunately the field was pretty thin. I favored Forbes in '00 but he was clearly too much of a poindexter to ever have a chance.

1,128 posted on 05/30/2007 12:15:10 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: longshadow
RA was always thoughtful (and very often detailed) with many of the questions I asked. Furthermore, he is the only one of the evolutionists “that I can recall” (I’m sure there are others) that had the intellectual honesty to admit that that there had to be numerous iterations of simpler life before the single cell starting point, I.e. the common ancestor of all life.

In other words, he understood the math and didn’t run from it. Many on both sides do not, nor do they care to.

However, your response is indicative of attitude that seem universally pervasive amongst the evolutionist posters. Because one poster is ignorant of the history and contribution of RA (or just plain a dumb-arse), I fail to see why the rest of us should be lumped-in and labeled as the “Purveyors of Unknowledge.” And for that matter, the underlying notion that if you do not believe in evolution, you are automatically anti-science. This is a ridiculous notion, yet it is near universally held by the vast majority of the few remaining (and most of the banned) evolutionists. If you cannot accept this truth of this point, how about you list the evo’s, who still post, that do not share this opinion.

Simply put, what the heck is it that makes the evolution defenders such an angry, bitter bunch of people to debate with? I say this after having watched a number of the evo-side posters flame out in an angry tirade of expletives. I remember PH and some of the others. I say this also because I never expected RA to end his posting career here in such fashion.

In other words, I thought RadioAstronomer was/would be an exception. Turns out I was wrong.

1,129 posted on 05/30/2007 12:20:38 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Eurotwit
the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as one of the premier online forums for right-wing political discussion.

the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as the premier online forum for right-wing political discussion.

There. Fixed it.

1,130 posted on 05/30/2007 12:27:21 PM PDT by beckysueb
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To: Glenn

I know many liberal Democrats who complain that Hillary has no chance of winning.


1,131 posted on 05/30/2007 12:27:33 PM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: wagglebee
I've been wondering the same thing. What exactly are you implying? Do you think that JimRob has "fallen prey" to some sort of outside influence? Because many of us were delighted that he finally decided to do something about all of the FRiberals.

I take it your definition of "liberal" includes people who place national defense at the top of the government's priorities.

I have to say I am rather surprised to find that FR no longer considers the military to be a conservative issue. That is real news. I haven't really developed a response, because it is so unexpected.

1,132 posted on 05/30/2007 12:32:54 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.”

Boston Red Sox fans thinks New Yorkers are Yankees...


1,133 posted on 05/30/2007 12:34:18 PM PDT by Revenge of Sith
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To: js1138
Nobody is saying that the military isn't a conservative issue. I said that, historically, our country has been most successful when foreign policy was apolitical (i.e. the best interests of America were put above politics).

I take it your definition of "liberal" includes people who place national defense at the top of the government's priorities.

Somebody who supports abortion, supports militant homosexualism, supports illegal immigration and supports restricting the Second Amendment IS A LIBERAL.

So, are you going to answer the question or not, what is your theory on this "Wormwood" that you believe Jim Robinson has fallen prey to?

1,134 posted on 05/30/2007 12:38:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
So, are you going to answer the question or not, what is your theory on this "Wormwood" that you believe Jim Robinson has fallen prey to?

I don't have a theory. Call it an intuition. This site used to be more positive regarding the need for a competent Commander-In-Chief. The idea that it's OK to switch to a defeatist party in the middle of a protracted war is just a surprise to me.

1,135 posted on 05/30/2007 12:58:25 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: Diplomat
And for that matter, the underlying notion that if you do not believe in evolution, you are automatically anti-science. This is a ridiculous notion, yet it is near universally held by the vast majority of the few remaining (and most of the banned) evolutionists.

Depends on how you're defining "science". Properly taken, being anti-evolutionist is being anti-science since it requires denying findings in about every major field of science.

This is especially true of young earth creationism, although old-earth creationism has its problems as well.

Theistic evolution does not have this problem, and I think some varieties of ID and mixed theistic evolution/special creationism (for instance, some people believe humans evolved from animals but the first true human became so when ensouled by God) also are not anti-science. ID as a major movement is indeed anti-science because it is a pseudo-scientific front for a religious movement (see the Wedge Document). The major players in ID are not interested in doing science, but apologetics.

I used to be a theistic evolutionist who dithered about the possibility of special creation of humans myself.

Simply put, what the heck is it that makes the evolution defenders such an angry, bitter bunch of people to debate with?

Most of us have college degrees in the sciences, and many of us have advanced degrees in our field. We often are debating people who aren't highly educated in the sciences. This isn't necessarily a problem. However, some of these people, although not being highly educated in science, have yanked some information that they don't really understand off of a creationist web site (by creationists own admission some of the creationist material out there is total nonsense (see AiG's Do Not Use list)) and are willing to go up against all the Nobel winners of this century in single combat. Because these people don't understand the basic science they're talking about, debating them can be more difficult than debating someone who has a clue because they can't understand it when you explain how they're wrong. Add to the fact that these posters often have an extremely healthy level of self-confidence and are proceeding from a religious certainty (according to AiG, "No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.") and you often find that they are evidence impervious.

Probably many times you have observed annoyance on our part we have been dealing with people that we've dealt with for months to years and know to be arrogant, ignorant, and obstinate. Additionally, I bet there's an observer bias, because I often see very rude comments directed towards evolutionists by creationists.

I realize that some people are actually interested in talking about the evidence, so I try to speak courteously to people who I cannot remember speaking to before or whom I know are not consistently obnoxious. Sometimes the conversation goes downhill, but sometimes it does not.

1,136 posted on 05/30/2007 12:58:54 PM PDT by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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1,137 posted on 05/30/2007 12:59:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: js1138
This site used to be more positive regarding the need for a competent Commander-In-Chief. The idea that it's OK to switch to a defeatist party in the middle of a protracted war is just a surprise to me.

I don't know where you would be getting that idea from. The ONLY people who have been pushing an incompetent commander-in-chief are the Roody Rooters.

1,138 posted on 05/30/2007 1:00:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Graybeard58
I am not joining the debate as to whether or not R.A. should have been banned but this is hardly a “Private FReepmail”

[snip]

The complaint by the individual attacking RA specifically referred to the private Freepmail, not the posts you cited.

None the less, if someone wishes to complain about RA's posted comments using that sort of language, then consistency demands they also get upset at the 600+ instances of the same word being used in other posts on FR that are still up for all to see.

The occasional use of profanity by a long-time poster on FR has never been grounds for banning.

1,139 posted on 05/30/2007 1:10:40 PM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his tenth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t expect a president to be an expert in military strategy. When I think of presidential incompetence, I think of someone who will retreat when the job turns out to be tougher and more unpopular than expected.

Specifically, I think of democrats.


1,140 posted on 05/30/2007 1:15:48 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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