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To: Mulder

The officers on the entry team are not at fault. They have no way of knowing if they are hitting the right house or not, so they follow procedure the same way every time amd so did I. I prefer to go home every night and not leve my safety up to arm chair QB's who haven't the nerve to do the job others do.

Entry team is a harrowng experience some times. Other times it is boring. I trained and implemented on the side of harrowing every time.


25 posted on 03/23/2006 11:18:44 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
The officers on the entry team are not at fault.

Puh-leeze. Anyone with a multidigit IQ can figure out that if you have an ambiguous description of the target, you go back and get a clarification.

29 posted on 03/23/2006 11:23:13 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: One Proud Dad
"They have no way of knowing if they are hitting the right house or not, so they follow procedure the same way every time amd so did I."

Which part of the procedure calls for roughing up 80 year olds and putting them in the hospital for the crime of sleeping at home in their beds?

32 posted on 03/23/2006 11:26:37 AM PST by joebuck
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To: One Proud Dad
The officers on the entry team are not at fault

Cool. Does that mean us non-LEOs aren't responsible for anything we do either? Next time I get stopped for speeding can I say it's "not my fault" and get away it?

arm chair QB's who haven't the nerve to do the job others do.

I guess that I, and others here, lack the bravery and courage to kick down the door of a couple of senior citizens and send both of them to the hospital.

39 posted on 03/23/2006 11:30:20 AM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: One Proud Dad

You get off on this sort of crap or you wouldn't be doing it, and what's with implying that those who object to brutality or simple ignorance substituting for professionalism are somehow cowards?


48 posted on 03/23/2006 11:37:01 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: One Proud Dad

Oooh, I have an idea! How about we get rid of small town SWAT teams and stop doing dynamic entries. Arrest ppl when they are out in town and when they can be clearly identified.


50 posted on 03/23/2006 11:38:46 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: One Proud Dad
I prefer to go home every night and not leve my safety up to arm chair QB's who haven't the nerve to do the job others do.

This is America. If you want to break down doors and tackle people be a real man, join the Marines and volunteer for duty in Fallujah.
66 posted on 03/23/2006 11:46:10 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: One Proud Dad; All
"I prefer to go home every night"

You know innocent homeowners like to wake up in the morning as well.

Don't spew your BS about harrowing you volunteered you cant take the heat then get the hell out of the kitchen, why don't you try entering under RPG and crew served MG and then talk to me about harrowing.

SO tell me wise guy you are at home 0300 you hear glass breaking followed by a flash bang or CS what do you do knowing that you have done nothing wrong?

Take the gamble that they are real JBT's and that they are not home invaders that will rape you wife and kids while you watch before executing you?

Take the gamble that they are home invaders and bleed out after you take a few of the entry team out with you or end up on death roe

68 posted on 03/23/2006 11:46:44 AM PST by vrwc0915
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To: One Proud Dad
So, does the department that can't get an address correct get a free pass with no consequences??? Or is the throwing of 80-year folks on the floor with enough force to cause bodily injury, perhaps life threatening to people of that age--an acceptable form of conduct? If those eldery people (actually they're my age) need a lawyer to crush the stupid idiots engaged in this ''proper'' law enforcement conduct, I can suggest someone in their area. It appears that an ''arm chair QB'' to One Proud Dad is a person who recognizes a civil wrong when one occurs and wishes the victim the best in seeking a lawful remedy to the tortious injury.

''Nerve'' to do the job has nothing to do with this matter and is an example of a weak attempt at anti-intellectual distraction of the facts. We each choose the job we do and the law imposes on each of us the duty to do that job in a lawful manner and without negligently inflicting injury on another person. To assert that: '' the officers on the entry team are not at fault'' is just another excuse for a universal justification for any wrongful conduct engaged in by a person so long as he purports to be enforcing the law. Thus, a badge and gun is carte blanche and license to be as unreasonable and negligent as one chooses to be because he knows the community will be overwhelmed by the aura of his uniform and the potential danger he faces and hold him harmless.

77 posted on 03/23/2006 11:49:58 AM PST by middie (ath.Tha)
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To: One Proud Dad

Sounds like you're saying, "I was just following orders."

Also sounds like there's no limit to the orders you'd follow.

Shame.


92 posted on 03/23/2006 11:57:29 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: One Proud Dad

"The officers on the entry team are not at fault".

I guess it was the old folks fault for being at home when the jackbooted thugs decided to terrorize them?

Exactly whose fault do you think it was?


93 posted on 03/23/2006 11:57:31 AM PST by Supernatural (Ea wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: One Proud Dad

"I prefer to go home every night and not leve my safety up to arm chair QB's who haven't the nerve to do the job others do."

It takes a lot of nerve to beat up old people sleeping in their home, and then brag about the safety and comfort of your own home.


94 posted on 03/23/2006 11:57:33 AM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: One Proud Dad

B.S. Idiot. Coward. JBT apologist. Dick. Just plum run out of words.

Of course the "officers" on the entry team are at fault.

You break into the wrong house and bust up and old man and his wife and it is not your fault?? What are you, a 9 year old who broke a lamp or something??

An 80 year old lady could not possibly pose a risk to a team of body armour clad heavly armed men in their physical prime. Hope the lot of them are fired.
Imagine how bad the old guy must feel not being able to protect his wife, probally what got him hurt.
Glad they didn't accidently kill the old folks, guess the jury is still out on that though.


252 posted on 03/23/2006 3:02:40 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: One Proud Dad

Sorry, come screaming through my door at 4 AM, and see what happens. I violate no laws, and assume that any door crashers are NOT the cops.


311 posted on 03/24/2006 12:28:57 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: One Proud Dad
Nobody on the entire SWAT thought it was a bad idea to flip-a-coin? Nobody thought they should

This is an outrage that this kind of thing can happen in America. It is even more outrageous that some people can "stand behind" this kind of stupid, arrogant, and morally bankrupt behavior on behalf of these SWAT members.

This is still the United States of America, no matter how much these retarded, uneducated, power-hunry, large-ego, small penis SWAT members would like it to be NAZI Germany.

I would like to see the entire SWAT team fired and a large judgment for the Plaintiff in a civil case.

I would like to see a federal 42 USC 1983 lawsuit against them too.
336 posted on 03/25/2006 3:25:32 PM PST by RKB-AFG (We welcome that debate on our side. We'll clean your clock!)
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