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Senators Back Base Closings 53-47
http://news.lycos.com/news/ ^ | By CAROLYN SKORNECK Associated Press Writer

Posted on 09/25/2001 5:23:25 PM PDT by freedomnews

Senators Back Base Closings 53-47

Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:02 p.m. EDT

- - - - - By CAROLYN SKORNECK Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush's base-closings initiative was endorsed Tuesday by the Senate with strong support from Democrats, but it faces objections from House members who have tried to derail any mothballing of facilities.

The Senate vote of 53-47 stopped an effort to remove a base-closings provision from the $343 billion defense bill that authorizes money for the military efforts of the Defense and Energy departments for the next fiscal year, which begins Oct. 1.

``This vote is really all about whether we're going to do business as usual, and preserve our bases in our states whether they're necessary or not, or whether we're going to have ... the most efficient military machine to fight this long, protracted struggle'' against terrorism, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a longtime base-closing supporter, said in debate before the vote.

Before the authorization bill can become law, a House-Senate conference must resolve differences between the versions approved by each chamber. The House measure, which lawmakers began debating Tuesday, intentionally omits any mention of base closings.

Meanwhile, missile defense has largely disappeared as a point of partisan contention, part of the national unity that emerged following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In the House, a bipartisan amendment to cuts funds from that program while boosting anti-terrorism efforts by $400 million - for a total of about $6 billion - was expected to pass easily.

Bush sought $8.3 billion for missile defense, a $3 billion increase over this year's spending.

The Senate agreed Friday to provide the full $8.3 billion, but would let the president use $1.3 billion to combat terrorism instead.

The House Armed Services Committee reduced the $8.3 billion request last month by $135 million. The amendment, co-sponsored by committee Chairman Bob Stump, R-Ariz., and its top Democrat, Rep. Ike Skelton of Missouri, would cut another $265 million, leaving $7.9 billion for missile defense.

The additional anti-terrorism money would be ``an initial down payment until the president can better assess the long-term needs,'' Stump said.

Skelton said plans for a ``very spirited debate'' over missile defense ended with the terrorist attacks, when both parties agreed ``the nation would not be served by a divisive debate.''

Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., proposed, then withdrew, an amendment regarding the Puerto Rican island Vieques, where the Navy has trained for decades. The amendment would have canceled a planned November referendum of Vieques residents on whether the Navy should stop training in 2003, when Bush has said it will, or stay and pay $50 million for public works projects. Inhofe acted as Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., planned to attach a requirement undermining his amendment.

The White House does not want the vote held. A House bill would call it off while requiring the Navy to keep using Vieques until an equivalent or better training site is found.

Regarding base closings, the Senate bill calls for one round in 2003, with an independent panel deciding which bases would be affected, and the Congress and president approving or rejecting the entire list.

Sen. John Warner, R-Va., the Senate Armed Services Committee's top Republican, read from a letter by Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, saying, ``The authority to eliminate excess infrastructure will be an important tool our forces will need to become more efficient and serve as better custodians of the taxpayers' money.''

Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., meanwhile, said it was wrong to press for such upheavals ``when our reserves are being called up, our National Guard is being called up, our communities are being told, `Support our military.'''

Four rounds of base-closings - in 1988, 1991, 1993 and 1995 - led to the closing or realignment of 451 installations, including 97 major ones


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1 posted on 09/25/2001 5:23:25 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
Sen. John Warner, R-Va., the Senate Armed Services Committee's IS A trader to America
2 posted on 09/25/2001 5:25:25 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: freedomnews
Traitor
3 posted on 09/25/2001 5:27:01 PM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: freedomnews
Sen. John Warner, R-Va., the Senate Armed Services Committee's IS A trader to America

Of course you mean traitor don't you?

That's okay, I went to publik skool two.

4 posted on 09/25/2001 5:27:34 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (dcbryan1)
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To: freedomnews
Why? Because he supports the base closing provisions?
5 posted on 09/25/2001 5:28:16 PM PDT by AZPubbie
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To: freedomnews
Uhm, perhaps he is a little more informed on what our military needs and what it doesn't need.
6 posted on 09/25/2001 5:29:32 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: freedomnews
Sen. John Warner, R-Va., the Senate Armed Services Committee's IS A trader to America

If the Air Force says it doesn't need the bases, let's close 'em.

The biggest screams come from the retired military around the bases, pissed because they won't be able to get cheap stuff from the PX.

7 posted on 09/25/2001 5:32:08 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: freedomnews
IS A trader to America

He does business trades with america to other countries?

8 posted on 09/25/2001 5:32:11 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: dbbeebs
Senate Roll Call for Base Closing - - - - - By The Associated Press

The 53-47 roll call by which the Senate on Tuesday refused to remove a base-closing provision from the $343 billion defense authorization bill.

On this vote, a ``yes'' was to kill the amendment and a ``no'' was to keep the amendment alive.

Voting ``yes'' were 31 Democrats, 21 Republicans and one independent.

Voting ``no'' were 19 Democrats and 28 Republicans.

Alabama Sessions (R) Yes; Shelby (R) No. Alaska Murkowski (R) No; Stevens (R) No. Arizona Kyl (R) Yes; McCain (R) Yes. Arkansas Hutchinson (R) No; Lincoln (D) Yes. California Boxer (D) No; Feinstein (D) No. Colorado Allard (R) Yes;

Campbell (R) No. Connecticut Dodd (D) Yes; Lieberman (D) Yes. Delaware Biden (D) Yes; Carper (D) Yes. Florida Graham (D) Yes; Nelson (D) Yes. Georgia Cleland (D) No; Miller (D) Yes. Hawaii Akaka (D) Yes; Inouye (D) No. Idaho Craig (R) No; Crapo (R) No. Illinois Durbin (D) No; Fitzgerald (R) No. Indiana Bayh (D) Yes; Lugar (R) Yes.

Iowa Grassley (R) Yes; Harkin (D) Yes. Kansas Brownback (R) No; Roberts (R) No. Kentucky Bunning (R) No; McConnell (R) No. Louisiana Breaux (D) No; Landrieu (D) Yes. Maine Collins (R) No; Snowe (R) No. Maryland Mikulski (D) No; Sarbanes (D) No. Massachusetts Kennedy (D) Yes; Kerry (D) Yes. Michigan Levin (D)

Yes; Stabenow (D) Yes. Minnesota Dayton (D) Yes; Wellstone (D) Yes. Mississippi Cochran (R) No; Lott (R) No. Missouri Bond (R) No; Carnahan (D) No. Montana Baucus (D) No; Burns (R) No. Nebraska Hagel (R) Yes; Nelson (D) No. Nevada Ensign (R) Yes; Reid (D) Yes. New Hampshire Gregg (R) No; Smith (R) No.

New Jersey Corzine (D) Yes; Torricelli (D) No. New Mexico Bingaman (D) No; Domenici (R) No. New York Clinton (D) No; Schumer (D) No. North Carolina Edwards (D) No; Helms (R) No. North Dakota Conrad (D) No; Dorgan (D) No. Ohio DeWine (R) Yes; Voinovich (R) Yes. Oklahoma Inhofe (R) No; Nickles (R) Yes. Oregon Smith (R) Yes; Wyden (D) Yes. Pennsylvania Santorum (R) Yes; Specter (R) No. Rhode Island Chafee (R) Yes; Reed (D) Yes. South Carolina Hollings (D) Yes; Thurmond (R) Yes. South Dakota Daschle (D) Yes; Johnson (D) Yes. Tennessee Frist (R) Yes; Thompson (R) Yes. Texas Gramm (R) Yes;

Hutchison (R) No. Utah Bennett (R) No; Hatch (R) No. Vermont Jeffords (I) Yes; Leahy (D) Yes. Virginia Allen (R) Yes; Warner (R) Yes. Washington Cantwell (D) Yes; Murray (D) No. West Virginia Byrd (D) Yes; Rockefeller (D) Yes.

Wisconsin Feingold (D) Yes; Kohl (D) Yes. Wyoming Enzi (R) Yes; Thomas (R) No.

9 posted on 09/25/2001 5:35:12 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: dbbeebs
thanks
10 posted on 09/25/2001 5:35:43 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: AZPubbie
look at his pass voted and you will see
11 posted on 09/25/2001 5:36:56 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: sinkspur
that the U.N line sinkspur
12 posted on 09/25/2001 5:39:53 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: AZPubbie
Panama
13 posted on 09/25/2001 5:40:37 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: cactmh
can you see that they are seting up a one world Military!!
14 posted on 09/25/2001 5:43:20 PM PDT by freedomnews
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that the U.N line sinkspur

THE U.N. LINE???

The U.N. doesn't get to vote on closing U.S. bases.

What the hell's the matter with you?

15 posted on 09/25/2001 5:46:32 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Of course, the workers at these bases scream loudly too. I was at a base targeted in the last BRAC. The PR campaign was sickening. A committee was formed. Consultants were hired (using non-military funds). We had post-wide meetings (it was a small post) to outline how to handle the big day when the BRAC commission would visit. We were told how to act, what to wear, reminded to cut our grass, etc. We were given time off to line the streets to chear and show our enthusiastic support for the base.

I still think the base should have been closed. I work elsewhere now.

16 posted on 09/25/2001 5:52:09 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: freedomnews
'help is on the way'!
17 posted on 09/25/2001 5:54:25 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: DugwayDuke
Of course, the workers at these bases scream loudly too.

Carswell was closed outside of Ft. Worth and made an Air National Guard location.

Bergstrom in Austin was closed and turned into an absolutely gorgeous international airport.

If the military wants to close 'em, close 'em.

18 posted on 09/25/2001 5:55:40 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: cactmh
Let's face it...the only reason we have as many military installations as we do is the Cold War. We needed a lot of bases so the soviets would have to use up a lot of their nukes on them and might miss a few...and putting all the hardware in a few spots was strategically stupid. Now...we probably do have too many bases. There are many facilities that could be combined...especially facilities in the same town..ie Randolf and Brooks in San Antonio.

Before the flames come...I'm 14 1/2 years AF and I know a little about the subject and am not putting down the military.

19 posted on 09/25/2001 5:56:40 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: freedomnews
I find it interesting that in one state, two people, representing the same constituents vote opposite, and they are from the same party. One more reason for term limits.
20 posted on 09/25/2001 5:56:46 PM PDT by cynicom
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